[LM24 Race] 2015 24 Hours of Le Mans

[greeny12]

Originally Posted by wewantourdarbyback

As for saying Lotterer's efforts ended in tears, he wasn't involved in any incident...

You mean apart from:

"...this extends thanks to a drive though penalty for #7 after their clash with the Porsche in the slow zone during the Strakka incident."

[J Jay]

Originally Posted by Simmi

Does anyone know on which lap of the race Lotterer banged in that fastest lap?

Alkamel only lists what lap in the car it was for Andre (116). Not sure why it does that.

Gotcha covered Simmi, it was lap 337. Alkamel do list this information, but because it only comes up in the hourly classifications you need to have an idea of when it was set in the first place, if you don't want to go through every hour.

Originally Posted by greeny12

You mean apart from:

"...this extends thanks to a drive though penalty for #7 after their clash with the Porsche in the slow zone during the Strakka incident."

Quick correction, it was Fassler that barged Tandy in the slow zone, not Lotterer. By the time the incident was investigated and the #7 was penalized, he'd got out and Lotterer was driving.

[Chuliandred]

Originally Posted by Simmi

Does anyone know on which lap of the race Lotterer banged in that fastest lap?

Alkamel only lists what lap in the car it was for Andre (116). Not sure why it does that.

http://fiawec.alkamelsystems.com/Res...After_Race.PDF

There it states Lap 179. But can't proof it right now.


I was quite surprised by Audi struggling to get the tires to work in the night. I would had guessed that they know better. Didn't they test enough? Especially, the Lotterer stint in the night was quite slow. It seemed like Tandy was that fast but it was more the Audis unable to keep their pace up.

[wewantourdarbyback]

Originally Posted by greeny12

You mean apart from:

"...this extends thanks to a drive though penalty for #7 after their clash with the Porsche in the slow zone during the Strakka incident."

Which wasn't Andre...

[Simmi]

Originally Posted by J Jay

Gotcha covered Simmi, it was lap 337. Alkamel do list this information, but because it only comes up in the hourly classifications you need to have an idea of when it was set in the first place, if you don't want to go through every hour.

Thank you sir!




As for the Lotterer non-point. That was hardly a 'banzai move' from Fassler. All the factory P1 drivers (Nissan aside - not sure they were going quick enough) had wild moments in traffic. It's par for the course with closing speeds.

[wolfhound]

Originally Posted by Simmi

Thank you sir!




As for the Lotterer non-point. That was hardly a 'banzai move' from Fassler. All the factory P1 drivers (Nissan aside - not sure they were going quick enough) had wild moments in traffic. It's par for the course with closing speeds.

I remember seeing it on a replay.
Fassler went from one side to the other of Tandy and then drove along side him in a slow zone on the pit straight (everybody watching silly boy).
To the best of my knowledge the drivers are meant to keep 2 car lengths apart in the slow zones.

[Articus]

Originally Posted by greeny12

At the end of the day audi proved the old adage that being on the ragged edge to compete is not a recipe for success at La Sarthe. They got away with it at both the early WEC races, where the six-hour format did not provide sufficient opportunity for the hyper-aggressive driving and risky overtakes to get punished... but over 24 hours it's a different story.

I remember saying to my mate as we watched the early action that at some point one of Lotterer's banzai efforts would end in tears and so it proved. Same could be argued of the #8 crash, where it looked from the on-board like the red mist of "overtake, overtake, overtake!" had descended. They were very, very lucky boys to still be running after that, let alone in contention for a podium.

Absolutely delighted that Porsche won, it's exactly what Le Mans needed - the race's champion constructor back where it truly belongs.

Roll on 2016!

I just don't agree with this, but yeah roll on 2016.

[ederss7]

I spent 36 hours without sleeping... 12h before the race and 24h for the race itself. Was it worth? Of course.

[GTRMagic]

Mr Webber has behaved like a true team bloke all year, heaping praise on the team, confirming the strategy was bang on, praising teammates, telling the world the time penalty made no difference to the outcome

Nicely done Mr Webber!

[Muppetdave901]

Personally I think he's a class bloke, never seen much to make me doubt that including his F1 years when I think he dealt with rubbish that was clearly being thrown at him for quite some time.

[wewantourdarbyback]

Originally Posted by wolfhound

I remember seeing it on a replay.
Fassler went from one side to the other of Tandy and then drove along side him in a slow zone on the pit straight (everybody watching silly boy).
To the best of my knowledge the drivers are meant to keep 2 car lengths apart in the slow zones.

His penalty was for 'disrespecting the slow zone', so it wasn't a penalty for breaking a specific rule, it was for acting in a way that you really shouldn't inside a zone that's been put in place for safety.

It deserved a penalty, but it wasn't an on the edge, near end of people's lives moment... (he didn't drive through a marshals post).

[Adam43]

Originally Posted by GTRMagic

Mr Webber has behaved like a true team bloke all year, heaping praise on the team, confirming the strategy was bang on, praising teammates, telling the world the time penalty made no difference to the outcome

Nicely done Mr Webber!

Just for you, here is a shot of him being overwhelmed on the way to his car.

[Adam43]

Which makes me think. Was this year a good year?

The winning car was white and had an F1 driver in it. The circuit allowed drivers - including the winner - to exceed the track boundaries. The stewards handed out loads of penalties. Sounds rubbish.

I thought it was excellent.

[J Jay]

Originally Posted by Adam43

I thought it was excellent.

I won't doubt that, but it is an interesting question to ask how this race compares to others of the modern (LMP) era.

The best way I can put it is that while I wouldn't make a film about this year's race, if you asked me to write or commission a book about any race since the turn of the century, this would be the one I would choose. In almost every garage there is a fascinating story that goes beyond the typical trials of getting a car to Le Mans and to the flag.

Yes there are the obvious headline-grabbers, the drivers of the #19 (specifically Tandy & Bamber), the potential record for the #7, Lapierre & KCMG, Jota's near-repeat, Corvette's triumph (and AF Corse's frustration) come to mind. But even beyond that there's plenty to muse upon - the performance of the third cars, Aston unable to win despite their pace advantage, the litany of LMP2 chassis in the run-up to the ACO gutting the class, etc.

There's more than enough to keep you busy right up until June next year...

[PascaLM]

Originally Posted by Adam43

Just for you, here is a shot of him being overwhelmed on the way to his car.

With Eric Hélary working for Eurosport this year.

[Adam43]

Yes, he bagged the first interview.

[Adam43]

Originally Posted by J Jay

?..

Yes there are the obvious headline-grabbers, the drivers of the #19 (specifically Tandy & Bamber),
...

But not the F1 driver.

All the drivers have a great background story and the fact that all are so diverse adds to the story.
Tandy was the star with a couple of near perfect stints that grabbed hold of the race.
However for the book, I think you would be failing to specifically target the other two and their background stories. It would come across as inverse snobbery.

[J Jay]

Originally Posted by Adam43

However for the book, I think you would be failing to specifically target the other two and their background stories. It would come across as inverse snobbery.

I'm not quite sure I follow. If you mean I would be doing a disservice to not put the same focus on each of the three drivers then I will concede that and admit to being guilty of thinking from too narrow a perspective.

But would you agree that this race in general offers a lot to muse on, even if it wasn't a 24-hour ding-dong? That was what I was trying to get at.

[mikuni]

Originally Posted by Adam43

But not the F1 driver.

All he is saying is that people expect a good performance from an F1 driver, but for a couple of relative unknowns to give the performance they did, is extraordinary.

[Adam43]

I got a perception from missing out one of the winning drivers. Too much listening to RLM

I agree, lots to muse on.

[mikuni]

While we are on the subject of RLM. I'm not going to say anything bad about them, because I know a lot of people on here love RLM and they do a great job. However, I watched the WEC feed on the weekend and I was very happy with it. Sure the commentators lacked knowledge, but if you have a sound understanding of the cars and are watching live timing, you don't need to much insight other than a commentary of the race. The good thing was there was not a single ad. I switched over to RLM on 3 or 4 occasions to see how it compares, but even there they had ad's advertising themselves, which got annoying. I turned it off after hearing "radiolemans.com" about 10 times within a minute. Again, not bagging RLM, just saying if I can have a feed with zero ad's, I'll take it.

[Artur]

The race peaked with a 310k viewers, on FS1. That's the market Nielsen covers, not the full country, mind you(don't remember the percentage now, but I think it's +70%).

On Uk, it peaked with 428k :
https://f1broadcasting.wordpress.com...28000-viewers/

worth reading it, good results

Does anybody knows the numbers on France and Germany, please? I would search for them but I don't speak those languages

[hallenstein]

Originally Posted by fieldodreams79

That's what it looked like; throttle stuck. And shame, indeed.

Edit: Paul looks to be OK. Good news.

anybody find out what really happened there
been searching on the net but no statements/explanations ...

[GTRMagic]

Originally Posted by Adam43

Just for you, here is a shot of him being overwhelmed on the way to his car.

Top stuff!

Thanks Adam

[rustyfan]

Originally Posted by mikuni

I turned it off after hearing "radiolemans.com" about 10 times within a minute. Again, not bagging RLM, just saying if I can have a feed with zero ad's, I'll take it.

I had the Youtube feed of RLM going the entire race (much more stable than the radio feed off their website) and I didn't find their adverts intrusive at all. A number of times they used them to swap out the people in the booth, bring in guests and what not as well.

Then again, I suppose living in a country where some of the regular TV-channels run ad-blocks for - and I kid you not - 7-8 minutes, cut movie screenings halfway to show ads + newsblock + ads etc I suppose not even a minute of RLM self-ad will register on the radar for me