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There is one possible solution, but I don't see it happening. I don't know what is happening with F2, Porsche SuperCup, etc but I suspect there isn't going to be a full support package for both GPs. Could BTCC run at one of those events? Means running on the full GP layout, and means that the usual TOCA supports miss out, so not ideal but could be a better option than risking a meeting elsewhere being cancelled at the last minute due to lack of marshals.
Inevitably, arguments over media rights would scupper the idea from the start, but these are extraordinary times and maybe extraordinary measures are needed. |
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Althouhg I wouldn't describe 0-60mph in under 3 seconds, and top speed of >170mph as 'incredibly slow'. |
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No-one denies that the initial acceleration of an electric engine is very good, it's just after that it is somewhat lacking. They are still slower than Formula 3 cars around standard circuits, which for standard of an international championship is, to me, "incredibly slow". |
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Or more specifically, if an NGTC car and an FE car lined up at a circuit, which would come out on top? |
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Perhaps start a new EV BTCC thread if this continues as I fear it will destroy the BTCC 2020 topic.
Also there is a general EV thread here: https://tentenths.com/forum/showthread.php?t=154979 Join in or just use it as a useful resource to copy and paste all the old points from. |
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Brands has switched layouts. The GP track will now be used in August and the Indy in November.
No option tyre at events either. Medium compound all tracks except http://www.btcc.net/2020/06/01/layou...e-regulations/ |
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Everybody else's crap has next to no range. I personally know an elderly lady whose eight year old Nissan Leaf can barely do a 25 mile journey now. As it's 22 miles to town and back for her, it's not going to be long for the world. |
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The Jaguar iPace has a range of 292 miles
The VW iD.3 has a range of 260 miles for the base model (there will be a version that does over 300 miles but that's not available in the UK until later in the year) The Ford Mustang also has a range of 260 miles for the base model, or 370 miles if you upgrade the battery. So all three are good enough to take Dominic Cummings to Durham without stopping. |
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I wonder if Speedworks have acquired a particular Italian Hatch to go testing hybrid systems with? It was available and turnkey with little extra value than its parts so with hybridised as-is or gut to make their old Avensis a runner once again?
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Avensis makes perfect sense. Tried and trusted.
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The 2 British GPs are now confirmed for the first two weeks in August. Clashing with Donington and Brands.
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If the internals need to be stripped back extensively to fit the hybrid components, why pull apart a complete car? If the hybrid system is to be tested alongside a non-hybrid equivalent, then a car of which only one was built is not suitable. I'm personally not seeing the logic of taking on another chassis when they already have a chassis that they have extensive knowledge of, and other examples exist that they could acquire if more spares or comparison is needed (including one with HMS). |
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Maybe they prefer concentrating on developing their car for the season ahead. No use testing something now when they need to focus on the current car more than ever. I don't think Speedworks see the hybrid as a top priority at the moment
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Not sure why anyone would think anyone would invest money in an old chassis just to develop a hybrid system. Any old test hack would do pretty much as long as it can go round and round cheaply within a few secs of the pace.
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But they've been assigned the testing duties.
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https://www.touringcartimes.com/2020...sting-partner/
Christian Dick: “I am excited and proud that we have secured the development car contract." I'm not sure 'any old test hack' would go down well with Cosworth/Gow? |
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With everything that has been going on, it’s probably best this project is paused while everyone sorts themselves out. Maybe the project will be tested at the end of the season or the start of next season, who knows? Getting through this season is more important
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The more they spend on development, the more they’ll have to recover in ongoing costs. |
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