LM24 Le Mans Entry List 2006 - Page 25

gwyllion · 12 Jun 2006, 10:10 (Ref:1632298)

I convinced Bouchut would have matched the other drivers, especially Loeb, with more time behind the wheel.

Like Bouchut says, it would have made more sense to change the drivers pairing to: Collard-Comas-Montagny (super fast) and Hélary-Loeb-Bouchut (consistent).

canam · 12 Jun 2006, 10:22 (Ref:1632305)

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Originally Posted by gwyllion

I convinced Bouchut would have matched the other drivers, especially Loeb, with more time behind the wheel.

With more time, he may have...but time is not on their side. Minassian will, no doubt, be on Collard and Montagny's pace within a few laps.

Why take the risk when you don't have to? Besides, Bouchut's comments afterwards will not endear him kindly to the fans. Probably best he is not in the team.

tux · 12 Jun 2006, 10:31 (Ref:1632313)

i feal its a great shame that Bouchut will not drive at le mans, how come russian age racing havnt giving him back his seat? it would make more sense having him in the dbr9 than Piquet jr

**FIRE** · 12 Jun 2006, 11:01 (Ref:1632341)

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Originally Posted by canam

Bouchut's comments afterwards will not endear him kindly to the fans. Probably best he is not in the team.

Same is (or even more) for Pescarolo.

bernard b · 12 Jun 2006, 11:58 (Ref:1632383)

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Originally Posted by tux

on radio le mans just a minute ago john hindhaugh just read out the list of cars being scrutinerred this afternoon and the team icer brakes ferrari 430 was on the list

he didn't obviously read the latest list

**Aysedasi** · 12 Jun 2006, 12:11 (Ref:1632397)

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Originally Posted by canam

With more time, he may have...but time is not on their side. Minassian will, no doubt, be on Collard and Montagny's pace within a few laps.

I hope for his sake Minassian doesn't drop it somewhere on his first stint........

gwyllion · 12 Jun 2006, 12:44 (Ref:1632423)

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Originally Posted by canam

With more time, he may have...but time is not on their side. Minassian will, no doubt, be on Collard and Montagny's pace within a few laps.

Why take the risk when you don't have to? Besides, Bouchut's comments afterwards will not endear him kindly to the fans. Probably best he is not in the team.

So why didn't Pescarolo ask Minassian in the first place if he did not want to take any risk?

Why didn't he give more track time to Bouchut to show his true potential?

3:39 is not a bad time for someone with detailed instructions not to push and drive with a safety margin. Maybe the qualifying times of 2005 put things into perspective a bit:

Collard: 3:34.715 (29 laps)
Ayari: 3:35.555 (16 laps)
Comas: 3:37.217 (15 laps)
Bouillion: 3:40.104 (11 laps)
Helary: 3:40.866 (6 laps)
Loeb: 3:41.225 (27 laps)

Loeb is allowed to be 7 slower than Collard and Bouchut is not

It is a pitty that Pescarolo has ruined Le Mans 2006 for Bouchut. I really doubt the fans will blame Bouchut for telling his side of the story.

WouterM · 12 Jun 2006, 13:00 (Ref:1632440)

We just put a well illustrated preview for the race online. It includes a class by class rundown, a fully illustrated entry list and a 150 picture slideshow with at least one shot of all fifty cars.

Here is the link: http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/frame...tem.php&fid=10

We will also cover the race and publish a full coverage a day or two after the race with hundreds of high resolution images.

vollpower · 12 Jun 2006, 13:58 (Ref:1632493)

Can somebody please post me the link for radio le mans ..... cheers

gwyllion · 12 Jun 2006, 14:03 (Ref:1632500)

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Originally Posted by vollpower

Can somebody please post me the link for radio le mans ..... cheers

The first hit on google gives you http://www.radiolemans.com/ There you can click on Listen Live, which gives you http://globecast.workscast.com/

19dodge · 12 Jun 2006, 14:14 (Ref:1632507)

We have posted our annual "Spotter's Guide" to the 24 Hours of Le Mans, as well as our in-depth race preview, divided into GT1/GT2 and LMP1/LMP2

http://www.the-paddock.net

LMP1 / LMP2 Preview

GT1 / GT2 Preview

24 Hours of Le Mans Spotter's Guide

Dani Filth · 12 Jun 2006, 17:44 (Ref:1632703)

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Originally Posted by gwyllion

So why didn't Pescarolo ask Minassian in the first place if he did not want to take any risk?

Why didn't he give more track time to Bouchut to show his true potential?

3:39 is not a bad time for someone with detailed instructions not to push and drive with a safety margin. Maybe the qualifying times of 2005 put things into perspective a bit:

Collard: 3:34.715 (29 laps)
Ayari: 3:35.555 (16 laps)
Comas: 3:37.217 (15 laps)
Bouillion: 3:40.104 (11 laps)
Helary: 3:40.866 (6 laps)
Loeb: 3:41.225 (27 laps)

Loeb is allowed to be 7 slower than Collard and Bouchut is not

It is a pitty that Pescarolo has ruined Le Mans 2006 for Bouchut. I really doubt the fans will blame Bouchut for telling his side of the story.

Loeb is not a circuit driver .. and he is allowed to be 7 seconds slower cause of Playstation ..

we don't know if Henri promised the driver to Bouchut and then replaced him .. if it was only ok you test and we decide after that .. it's more than OK for me ..
and i'm a Bouchut fan .. and was looking forward to having him in the pesca

canam · 12 Jun 2006, 19:05 (Ref:1632808)

Let's not get too upset about this Bouchut thing.

Bouchut is a pro and has been around for years. He knows the score. He obviously signed a contract with the other (GT) team and ditched them for what he thought could be a better drive in the Pesca. It was obviously a test with no guarantee; otherwise the information would have been releasd in another manner. Bouchut hints as much in his interview. He thought that there was no alternative and took the risk...and, in my view, he did not perform. The Pesca is 2 seconds a lap faster than last year. He would be miles away from Minassian.

The fact that he is out of drive is his own fault. He should have stuck to his guns with the drive he had instead of trading for a better one. Apart from the fact that yet another good driver is without a drive, I can name a couple more that I would choose before his name would come up: a certain Mr Lehto and a certain Mr Smith.

I have no sympathy.

**Aysedasi** · 12 Jun 2006, 19:17 (Ref:1632822)

Nuts - sorry - any driver worth his salt would have gone for that drive, guarantee or no guarantee.... Minassian is still a Pescarolo sub - as gwyllion says, if he really is that good, why didn't Pesca pick him long ago....

canam · 12 Jun 2006, 20:05 (Ref:1632875)

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Originally Posted by Aysedasi

Nuts - sorry - any driver worth his salt would have gone for that drive, guarantee or no guarantee.....

Don't agree. Some drivers abide by their contracts. If what you say is true, however, Bouchut should not bleat about his predicament. He made his 'bed' now he has to sleep in it. Any other driver would have to do the same.

As regards Minassian, he is a contracted Creation driver (and not just for one race either) and could not be released without Creation's permission. If they had received a second entry in a timely fashion (not after the cut-off date), they would not have released him as they would have needed him. Pescarolo would have been aware of this situation. A Minassian switch could only have emerged late in the test week when the entry list was finally stable. Addtionally, Minassian is not a Matmut driver which would not have placed him immediately at the top of the list..

I have no doubt he will be fast despite Mr Pescarolo's requirements: no spins, no flat-spots, no curbs etc etc etc.. He has, after all, driven for him in the past.

My only desire is to see him qualify the car. If so, he will put it on pole.

**Aysedasi** · 12 Jun 2006, 20:18 (Ref:1632885)

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Originally Posted by canam

Don't agree. Some drivers abide by their contracts.

Quite true - that's how it should be.

But both Bouchut and Minassian didn't. Bouchut broke his in the hope of grabbing a great chance. Minassian has done the same but with more fortunate results.

Don't get me wrong, I've nothing whatever against Minassian - I don't think he's quite the best thing since sliced bread - but sure, he's good. I just don't like the way Henri treated Bouchut - Christophe has himself to blame for being lured away from the Aston (and I still maintain that any driver would have gone for a top LMP1 drive in the same way), but if Henri had no real intention of hiring him (as may have been the case), he should have had the decency to tell him before issuing the invite. There may not have been a guarantee, I accept, but if Bouchut is to be believed, Henri's motives in taking him on seem to me to be highly questionable.

My opinion - possibly few others share it.

awegrzyn · 12 Jun 2006, 21:06 (Ref:1632920)

I was a fan of Pesca, mainly due to Audi's dominance, but this whole thing left a negative taste in me. What an interesting turn of events. I may become an Audi fan for the first time.

canam · 12 Jun 2006, 21:15 (Ref:1632936)

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Originally Posted by Aysedasi

Quite true - that's how it should be.

But both Bouchut and Minassian didn't. Bouchut broke his in the hope of grabbing a great chance. Minassian has done the same but with more fortunate results.

Minassian has moved with Creation's blessing (for this race only). According to the statement, he will still be a contracted driver for Creation so I don't think he has broken anything. Don't know about Bouchut but the GT team seams to have been pretty quiet about it...evaluating their legal options perhaps?

Additionally, only time will tell if he is in the right car on not. Although the betting odds don't suggest it, it would be truly ironic if the Creation entry finishes higher up the roster after 24 hours. JCW will be chomping at the bit to prove is not really a number two driver.

brielga · 12 Jun 2006, 21:31 (Ref:1632956)

It sounds as if Bouchut was pushed on Henri from the sponsorship side, obviously both took a clear course of action: Bouchut went for the LMP1 top drive, Pescarolo kept trying to get Minassian in the background which (I believe) is whom he really wanted still betting on both horses until the very last second. One of the drivers had to be either upset (Bouchut) or disappointed (Minassian) in the end. Option 1 is what happened and Bouchut's bet did not pay off, I think he did not stand a chance unless the Creation folks would not have released Minassian. Just my 2 cents....

**Bentley03** · 12 Jun 2006, 21:43 (Ref:1632965)

It's my understanding (from snippets I've heard from a variety of people) that Nic was in fact Henri's first choice for a seat in the 17 car, ahead of Franck Montagny. In other words he would have been one of the six from the very beginning if Henri had had his way.

prototype · 12 Jun 2006, 22:13 (Ref:1632989)

Acemco has updated their website as of this weekend. It doesn't say anything of an upcoming schedule except that they should be a Petit Le Mans. Check it out.

www.acemcomotorsports.com

bernard b · 12 Jun 2006, 22:22 (Ref:1633000)

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Originally Posted by Bentley03

It's my understanding (from snippets I've heard from a variety of people) that Nic was in fact Henri's first choice for a seat in the 17 car, ahead of Franck Montagny. In other words he would have been one of the six from the very beginning if Henri had had his way.

true
but at that time, Creation had hope for 2 entries, and that's why Nic refused Pescarolo's offer, he didn't want to let them down

gwyllion · 14 Jun 2006, 07:09 (Ref:1634042)

According to http://www.lemans.org/24heuresdumans...4h_engages.pdf the following cars do not yet technically conform.

#9 Creation Autosportif
#12 and #13 Courage Competition
#33 Intersport Racing
#63 and #64 Corvette Racing
#77 Multimatric Motorsport
#80 Flying Lizard Motorsports
#91 T2M Motorsport
#98 Noel del Bello

I assume these are some minor details that need to be fixed before they are allowed to participate.

**Aysedasi** · 14 Jun 2006, 09:35 (Ref:1634139)

That's really wierd - how would the Corvettes not "technically conform" for example?

gwyllion · 14 Jun 2006, 10:06 (Ref:1634174)

This is the List of the competitors & cars eligible to take part in the "24 Heures du Mans" Practice Sessions The car is purple are Sous réserve de mise en conformité technique (subject to setting in technical conformity)

I remember that Corvette had a minor problem during the scrutineering of the test day.

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Apart from a second appearance for technical checks for the Corvette n°63 after it was adjudged that the distance between the rear wheel axel and the rear of the car had exceeded the limit by 3mm, there was nothing serious to report for the 28 cars which passed before the stewards today.

source: http://www.lemans.org/24heuresdumans...AP_363_gb.html

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