WEC Race 2016 Round 4 - 6hours of Nürburgring - Page 5

Akrapovic · 24 Jul 2016, 12:56 (Ref:3660621)

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Originally Posted by gert

Radio LM keeps telling they should be able to do it on just 6 stops (as opposed to 6 and a splash for the Audis).
If that's correct, they'll have to make up a lot of fuel.

Anyhow, it is now back in front of the 2 Audis.

RLM have been saying a splash for the Porsches too. Toyota are the only ones they're saying can do it without a splash.

J Jay · 24 Jul 2016, 12:57 (Ref:3660622)

#83 off on the outside of the chicane. FCY incoming.

gert · 24 Jul 2016, 13:00 (Ref:3660623)

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Originally Posted by Akrapovic

RLM have been saying a splash for the Porsches too. Toyota are the only ones they're saying can do it without a splash.

You're sure? I thought in the pre-race show they said just 6 for Porsche and Toyota.

And the reason Hartley stayed out for a while on that bad tire was to not disrupt the fuel plan.

-- EDIT --

Even now, under the FCY they're talking about this being good news for Audi as it might give them the opportunity to avoid that extra stop.
No mention of the Porsche(s)

Akrapovic · 24 Jul 2016, 13:02 (Ref:3660624)

They did mention Porsche. They said this is bad news for Toyota because it allowed Audi and Porsche to possibly skip the splash. They talked about Porsche at the start too because Toyota are (in Johns opinion) fuel saving so they can leap Porsche and Audi at the end. They even did the maths of how long it'd take in the pit lane.

What they did say was a splash at the end for Porsche and Audi gives an advantage to Porsche because they generally have faster stops.

gert · 24 Jul 2016, 13:03 (Ref:3660625)

88 covered with fire extinguisher

gert · 24 Jul 2016, 13:05 (Ref:3660626)

Webber keeps losing time because the 36 is too slow. He has lost 6 seconds already...

gert · 24 Jul 2016, 13:07 (Ref:3660627)

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Originally Posted by Akrapovic

They did mention Porsche.

They (RLM) just repeated that both Porsche and Toyota don't have to do an extra splash, even the Porsche that stopped early.

Acid09 · 24 Jul 2016, 13:13 (Ref:3660630)

Wurz being pretty candid about Toyota being nowhere due to tire issues.

Akrapovic · 24 Jul 2016, 13:23 (Ref:3660633)

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Originally Posted by gert

They (RLM) just repeated that both Porsche and Toyota don't have to do an extra splash, even the Porsche that stopped early.

Whenever they talk about Toyota, this is not what they say. Until the Wurz interview, John was adamant that Toyotas strategy was to fuel save and do 1 less stop then Porsche and Audi, thus saving 35ish seconds in the pits. And as he said, the FCY was bad for Toyota because it then made Audi and Porsche safer on fuel. And if you do the maths, Porsche with 51 minute stints would need a splash after you take into account the formation laps, but would now be safe after the FCY. Audi with 49 minute stints is far far more marginal even with the FCY as they need around 15 minutes of fuel. For Toyota it doesn't matter. They're so far off the pace that it won't make a difference.

J Jay · 24 Jul 2016, 13:26 (Ref:3660635)

The first of the Toyotas going one lap down...

Di Grassi passes Lotterer out of T3, let past by the team.

Akrapovic · 24 Jul 2016, 13:27 (Ref:3660636)

G Drive have had an issue and lost the lead. We need to see that, as that car was dominating.

gert · 24 Jul 2016, 13:29 (Ref:3660638)

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Originally Posted by Akrapovic

... John was adamant ...

Could it be that we're not listening to the same commentary?
I assume 'John' means John Hindhaugh? I'm listening to RadioLeMans via their website, and John is not there.

AndreasDavour · 24 Jul 2016, 13:30 (Ref:3660639)

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Originally Posted by gert

Could it be that we're not listening to the same commentary?
I assume 'John' means John Hindhaugh? I'm listening to RadioLeMans via their website, and John is not there.

Hindy is on the FIAWEC feed.

Akrapovic · 24 Jul 2016, 13:31 (Ref:3660640)

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Originally Posted by gert

Could it be that we're not listening to the same commentary?
I assume 'John' means John Hindhaugh? I'm listening to RadioLeMans via their website, and John is not there.

We do have different commentary then. That's interesting. Currently John Hindhaugh and Graham Goodwin are on the WEC stream and have been saying that Porsche did for sure need a splash, until the FCY changed that. Now Porsche should be safe and Audi might be safe.

Interesting that different teams have come up with different conclusions.

AndreasDavour · 24 Jul 2016, 13:31 (Ref:3660641)

Was there an interview with Wurz about their status? They looks to be nowhere?!

Akrapovic · 24 Jul 2016, 13:32 (Ref:3660642)

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Originally Posted by AndreasDavour

Was there an interview with Wurz about their status? They looks to be nowhere?!

Yeah. He said the car isn't working well with the tyres and they are down on pace. It isn't strategy.

J Jay · 24 Jul 2016, 13:33 (Ref:3660643)

#26 has some sort of driveshaft issue, looks like that car will take a while to get back out if at all.

gert · 24 Jul 2016, 13:34 (Ref:3660644)

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Originally Posted by Akrapovic

We do have different commentary then. That's interesting.

Alright! That explains a lot.
Well, the guys I have (Paul Truswell I think + someone else named Bruce) have been repeating what I wrote before.

They might be wrong though, but I can't help it

AndreasDavour · 24 Jul 2016, 13:34 (Ref:3660645)

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Originally Posted by Akrapovic

Yeah. He said the car isn't working well with the tyres and they are down on pace. It isn't strategy.

Shoot. Those guys deserve a break.

Well, that's racing.

Thanks!

Akrapovic · 24 Jul 2016, 13:37 (Ref:3660647)

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Originally Posted by gert

Alright! That explains a lot.
Well, the guys I have (Paul Truswell I think + someone else named Bruce) have been repeating what I wrote before.

They might be wrong though, but I can't help it

It'll be fun to see which team turn out to be right lol. John pointing out Porsche got one more lap that stint due to FCY. Expecting Audi to gain one too.

gert · 24 Jul 2016, 13:39 (Ref:3660649)

Davidson stopping too soon.

AndreasDavour · 24 Jul 2016, 13:40 (Ref:3660650)

This does not look good for Toyota for the rest of the year. Time to scrap this year and put on the thinking cap maybe...

gert · 24 Jul 2016, 13:40 (Ref:3660651)

both Audis stop at the same time now

J Jay · 24 Jul 2016, 13:41 (Ref:3660652)

Davidson's demeanour in the cockpit says it all. Not expecting much from the TS050s in this race.

Closing in on halfway, I wonder if Audi will play favourites and politely suggest the #8 stays ahead? Either way, both pit, full service for #7 and fuel/tyres for #8.

Akrapovic · 24 Jul 2016, 13:42 (Ref:3660653)

#2 Porsche is very snappy and loose. Is it still battling an issue?

Once again, Porsche makes up buckets of time in the pit stops.

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