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10 Dec 2006, 09:06 (Ref:1786590)
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Tin Tops, I'm confused?
There seems to be two different championships called TinTops, its very confusing, one ran by yourselfves and the other by the Classic Sports Car Club. Theirs has a ceiling of 2000cc but I see from the BARCSE newsletter yours is unlimited. Would it not be a good idea to call yous something else as when looking for possible places to run my car I dismissed your series thinking it was pegged at 2000cc, which apparently its not.
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10 Dec 2006, 09:25 (Ref:1786613)
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South-East Tin Tops ???
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10 Dec 2006, 10:36 (Ref:1786676)
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south east tin tops sounds good. Hopefully we will have a challenge with the CSCC tin tops at Brands in May, and a return at Lydden.
Must appologise to Tim (Falcemob), bit of a wind up yesterday on entry fees. Eric reckoned you looked too happy. Glad you navigated him in the right direction, although how did you find your way out (no signs for the Blackwall tunnel). Hope you do race with us next year Tim. P.S. Where did Mr.Pipe leave those chocolates (not in Bill's Mini?). |
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10 Dec 2006, 20:24 (Ref:1787049)
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Maybe jonhill means the proper tin top series (CSCC). I think you need to rename or add something to your tintops so we don't all get confused.
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10 Dec 2006, 20:34 (Ref:1787054)
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Why not call ours the proper Tin Tops!
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10 Dec 2006, 20:45 (Ref:1787061)
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10 Dec 2006, 21:15 (Ref:1787092)
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 yeah, the "tin top" series requires standard induction which is a killer for a piddly little in-line 4, 20 year old 8v engine |
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10 Dec 2006, 21:15 (Ref:1787091)
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Fair enough re the tin tops and promoting. If you can do it for 5k as per the sign on the mini, not bad at all. And always good to have a car on the stand as well so was good to see that!
Was there any DTRC literature floating about? Didn't look for it too hard so may just have simply missed it. Tried to be organised and renew 750MC membership but apparently I don't need to yet as membership is valid for a year whenever I last did it! Oops....! Know I don't have as much involvement in it as others, but even I do find the tin tops thing confusing I'm afraid! |
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14 Dec 2006, 13:31 (Ref:1790620)
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Graham, why differentiate between list 1a and 1b tyres on the classes.
It just looks like it's getting complicated before it starts and a fair bit of policing will be needed to stop rule bending. I.E you could start a day on list 1a dry tyres and finish on list 1b wets or vice versa. What happens to the classes then? |
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14 Dec 2006, 13:58 (Ref:1790634)
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because if you didnt differenciate between tyres you would either need twice as many classes or those on 1A tyres would be totally uncompetitive,
to behonest tim tyres are one of the easiest things to police, unlike engines etc, just by looking at the sidewall you know exactly what they are, i cant see that much tyre swapping between types going on because its so easy to spot, if i driver wishes to swap tyre type they could simply be reclassed of classified, dont forget though its not a championship, its a series of races aimed and novices, occasional drivers or simply those who find DTRC TOO competitive |
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14 Dec 2006, 21:43 (Ref:1790904)
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14 Dec 2006, 16:01 (Ref:1790688)
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I'm sure somebody was asking if the tin-tops round at Rockingham was supporting the SCSA and pick-ups, well it would appear so!
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14 Dec 2006, 17:02 (Ref:1790719)
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Can anyone post a draft calendar for the BARC-SE Tin Tops, just to give us all an idea what's planned.
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14 Dec 2006, 17:39 (Ref:1790733)
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Yea it was me Chezza thanks for that.
And thanks Graham for clearing that up regarding the tyres. |
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14 Dec 2006, 23:33 (Ref:1790980)
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I thought most of us are GERIATRICS all ready anyone who has to have a medical when you look at the rule book and that has to be at least 80% of us
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23 Dec 2006, 15:59 (Ref:1798351)
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Hi, i'm looking to race my fiesta again in 2007 - have previously raced in the BRSCC Ford Saloons but that now looks very expensive and for 2007 is all double headers in wales it seems! I'd thought about the BARC TRC's but my car's pretty much standard now and I suspect would be eaten alive by some of the machinery. I've heard talk of a Tin Tops championship but can't find any info or regs on the BARC website and Rod Birley's website has only some dates.
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23 Dec 2006, 16:41 (Ref:1798365)
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Just mail or PM Rod, he'll do the rest. Would be good to see you out again.
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23 Dec 2006, 17:02 (Ref:1798380)
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We got an idea of how many runnners and riders we are going to have?
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23 Dec 2006, 20:14 (Ref:1798451)
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There's also the CSCC TinTops Dom, which you may be getting confused with.
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24 Dec 2006, 00:59 (Ref:1798559)
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Me in a MK2 Golf 16v Class T2
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24 Dec 2006, 11:37 (Ref:1798721)
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There seems to be a confusing array of clubs all doing the sameish thing - but after trawling though a lot of regs it seems my 'almost' standard is likely to be seriously outgunned. What's now annoying is that my car is too modified for the likes of 750mc Stock hatch. |
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24 Dec 2006, 19:07 (Ref:1798836)
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What car? What spec?
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26 Dec 2006, 10:32 (Ref:1799324)
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40 min races for 1 or 2 drivers, with mandatory pit stops. Class A - 1601-2000 multi valve Class B - 1601-2000 dual valve and 1301-1600cc multi valve Class C - 1301-1600 dual valve and up to1300cc multi valve Class D - Up to 1300 cc dual valve Class E Invitation Cars are to run on List 1A/1B tyres Where possible Tin Tops competitors get Pit garages. The provisional calendar is: Apr 21/22 Snetterton May 05/06 Brands Hatch June TBC Jun 24 Mallory Park July 07/08 Cadwell Park Aug 11 Oulton Park International Sept 22 Silverstone National |
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26 Dec 2006, 10:46 (Ref:1799330)
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[quote=andy97]The Classic Sports Car Club's "Tin Tops" series is for production saloon/ hatchbacks, under 2 litres, 4 cylinder, non turbo/ supercharged (except diesels). Original silhouette and Original engine, gearbox and induction system type to be retained.
Before you get all the stock hatches excited, the rules above only mean that the basics have to stay the same ie no 2ltr novas etc, you will find that a lot of the cars run quite sophisticated engines on race cams ,throttle bodies, oversize wheels and big brembo brakes etc, Having said that it is a very good series and if you spend your money wisely on a small engined car could do well in the 8 valve class. |
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