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Old 7 Sep 2004, 12:59 (Ref:1088986)   #1
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Rumours about Asian manufacturer in WTCC

We have heard strong rumours about an Asian manufacturer in 2005 WTCC. Today I read Spanish magazine "Autopista" and says Daewoo is the manufacturer. Anyone knows more? is it confirmed?
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Old 7 Sep 2004, 13:14 (Ref:1088998)   #2
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As far as I am informed, it will be not Daewoo but another brand from GM (Chevrolet). Racing distance in WTCC will change to 75 kms each race and teams can use bigger brakes too.
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Old 7 Sep 2004, 13:15 (Ref:1089000)   #3
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Although not related to the Autopista article but still on the topic of Asian car manufacturers in the WTCC: Perhaps Hyundai would be interested? Surely it would be cheaper to put together a WTCC programme as opposed to a WRC one?

Not that I would mind Daewoo though - the more brands represented the merrier
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Old 7 Sep 2004, 13:19 (Ref:1089002)   #4
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Racing distance in WTCC will change to 75 kms each race and teams can use bigger brakes too.
As a comparison, how long are the races in ETCC? I'm sure I've read it somewhere before but I can't remember..

In any case I reckon it's longer than the races in the ETCC though - they really are way too short, IMO.
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Old 7 Sep 2004, 13:22 (Ref:1089005)   #5
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As a comparison, how long are the races in ETCC? I'm sure I've read it somewhere before but I can't remember..
50 km if I remember well now.
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Old 7 Sep 2004, 13:27 (Ref:1089008)   #6
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Yes,the distance is 50kms now.
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Old 7 Sep 2004, 13:32 (Ref:1089010)   #7
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Thanks for the info. 75 km would be a welcome improvement, yes.

Must admit I'm becoming cautiosly optimistic about next year - the WTCC could shape up to become something really nice
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Old 7 Sep 2004, 13:54 (Ref:1089026)   #8
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Is there an un/officially WTCC site yet? Id like to see some of the confirmed news/rumours gathered together in one place.
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Old 7 Sep 2004, 14:17 (Ref:1089032)   #9
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Is there an un/officially WTCC site yet? Id like to see some of the confirmed news/rumours gathered together in one place.
http://www.fiatouringcars.com is the official site for the ETCC and will be so for the WTCC next year.

Perhaps not much in terms of "rumor-mill" yet though..

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Old 7 Sep 2004, 14:51 (Ref:1089155)   #10
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I believe a few announcements are likely to be made at the final round of this year's ETCC.
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Old 7 Sep 2004, 15:47 (Ref:1089193)   #11
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We have heard strong rumours about an Asian manufacturer in 2005 WTCC. Today I read Spanish magazine "Autopista" and says Daewoo is the manufacturer. Anyone knows more? is it confirmed?
I don't think Daewoo. The brand Daewoo will be replaced by Chevrolet in the near future (In Eastern Europe Daewoo's are already sold as Chevrolet). I give Hyundai a better chance. They have a new autosport department in Germany and have said to do WRC in 2006, but with WRC in difficult times (Mitsubishi out, Ford probably too) maybe they focus on touring car racing. If I am right sister company Kia will do Dakar rally.

But why would it be a Korean manufacturer? There is already a Asian car in ETCC: JAS Honda, so maybe this will be a factory entry next year.

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As far as I am informed, it will be not Daewoo but another brand from GM (Chevrolet). Racing distance in WTCC will change to 75 kms each race and teams can use bigger brakes too.
Owns GM more brands in Asia?

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Old 7 Sep 2004, 19:40 (Ref:1089341)   #12
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Hyundai have said that the Will definetly return to the WRC in 2006, but still have to pay the FIA the million dollar (not sure on excat figure) fine for not showing up at four events last year

Kia has/will have a new motorsport facility in Russelheim (near Opel I would imagine)
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Old 7 Sep 2004, 19:48 (Ref:1089347)   #13
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I don´t have too details because I did read only the headline, anyway tomorrow I will read article fully and perhaps then we´ll have more info.
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Old 8 Sep 2004, 12:14 (Ref:1089860)   #14
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As far as I am informed, it will be not Daewoo but another brand from GM (Chevrolet).
Article says GM has chosen Daewoo, for me it´s a strange choice but........
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Old 8 Sep 2004, 12:17 (Ref:1089863)   #15
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In Italy there was a rumour about Hyundai..
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Old 8 Sep 2004, 13:28 (Ref:1089931)   #16
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Daewoo isn't such a strange choice - racing builds the brand and that's a brand which would benefit from such marketing.
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Old 8 Sep 2004, 13:35 (Ref:1089941)   #17
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i think the daewoo cars will be rebranded as chevrolet in europe
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Old 8 Sep 2004, 13:53 (Ref:1089961)   #18
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Yes they will. Here's a good article on the matter:

http://www.auto123.com/en/info/news/...tid=27686&pg=1

Must admit I didn't know GM had brought in Daewoo into their fold, and GM not updating their website to include it with their other brands sure didn't help.
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Autosport reporting today Daewoo to be run by RML most likely - which brings into RML's SEAT BTCC team.

Also in with a shout of the team are WSR and Prodrive.
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Autosport reporting today Daewoo to be run by RML most likely - which brings into RML's SEAT BTCC team.
Sorry I don't understand this sentence.
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Old 9 Sep 2004, 19:30 (Ref:1091188)   #21
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Missed out "question" between "into" and "RML"
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Missed out "question" between "into" and "RML"
Yes that made it a lot more understandable, thanks
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www.autosport.com is reporting the Daewoo story now as well, and they have a small pic of what I reckon is supposed to be the car they might race with.

http://www.autosport.com/pc_subscrib...39619&s=34&p=1
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Old 10 Sep 2004, 14:45 (Ref:1092039)   #24
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can't get to the autosport . but any ideea what car is about ?? . Lacetti ??
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Old 10 Sep 2004, 16:01 (Ref:1092084)   #25
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Daewoo Nubira. Autosport seem to be well into the photoshops this past few weeks. We had a BAR F1 car in 555 colours (like Subaru WRC car), and this week we have a Jag F1 car rebranded in Ford white and blue.

The Daewoo photoshop has to be the dodgiest though!
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