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Old 22 Apr 2024, 11:26 (Ref:4206023)   #101
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Hmmm, that doesn’t seem right. I will check later. Thanks
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Old 23 Apr 2024, 00:16 (Ref:4206125)   #102
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Makes me wonder how did Acura jump Porsche being a bit slower in the Long Beach race. Is this because of how the combined performance is calculated for both series?
Yep - it was still carrying it's Sebring pace in the calc. Any car that was in WEC or both was fine, but the IMSA only Acura was not. Now fixed.

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  • Combined via Cadillac, Porsche and BMW. Lamborghini out of it as it didn't do Long Beach.
  • Ferrari trajectory has been improving and it hit the front.
  • Toyota's relative pace to Ferrari stayed almost exact the same as for Qatar, despite the small BoP changes in Ferrari's favor.
  • Cadillac's IMSA performance is dragging it down. It would be almost at Toyota level (but still third).
  • The newbies to the series all did worse in Imola.
  • Acura slips as it was 0.3% behind the average of the others in IMSA.
  • Peugeot look like a new car.
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Old 23 Apr 2024, 12:05 (Ref:4206163)   #103
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Thx for the update Ferrari really dominated Imola, now let's see in what way next BOP is adjusted because of that.
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Cadillac's IMSA performance is dragging it down. It would be almost at Toyota level (but still third).
Should be WEC performance here.
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Old 23 Apr 2024, 12:17 (Ref:4206167)   #104
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I was surprised at the BoP changes last time. Specifically the Ferrari v Toyota change. Although looking at these numbers it didn’t make a difference to the gap.

Ferrari tested a lot at Imola. Toyota not. So it could still be decent.

Most of the little tweaks got lost in the big Peugeot change as we saw.
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Finally again interesting how the Caddys are dominant in IMSA but struggling in WEC for performance
Let's do a little WEC and IMSA Cadillac comparison.

Looking at the average lap times from the most recent events in each. Also using the analysis from the Unified thread. In fact, now I think of it, I'll post this there. Here is the original post I quoted.

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Cadillac are 0.04% (0.03s) slower than the average of the fastest car from BMW, and Porsche.
This put them 0.67% or (0.62s) slower than the fastest car in WEC (Ferrari).

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Cadillac are 0.32% (0.23s) faster than the average of the fastest car from BMW and Porsche.
This put them 0.27% or (0.20s) faster than the next fastest (Porsche).

Comparison to Porsche and BMW shows they are all pretty close in both, and overall everything is very close. So part of this is that everything is so close a little difference has a big impact, especially in WEC with the bigger field.

What is causing the difference? Potential things.
Comedy theories alert!

A. Difference in BoP between the series? This post here contains the difference between Power/Weight for IMSA and WEC. There is a similar situation in both. There is a small penalty for Cadillac in WEC v. IMSA relative to Porsche (less v. BMW).
Is this down to the approach (possibly) or compensation for the tracks (maybe).

B. Cadillac's commitment to the series. It is clear there is more relative effort in IMSA (relative to their competitors) is higher than WEC. More cars maximizes you getting the best out of it. The analysis above is comparing to the fastest car from any manufacturer. And in WEC that is Caddy's only car. Also how are the current team feeling about it all. It feels like every race is an away race in WEC.

C. Could be the random variations you get race to race, track to track, driver to driver, etc...

My guess is B, but A could be influencing it, and C makes it difficult to draw conclusions!
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1 car Caddy team on circuits they don't know as well as the others is bound to hurt. You start off on the back foot, then collect less data than everyone around you.
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