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Old 5 Jul 2016, 16:26 (Ref:3657103)   #1
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2016 Four Hours of the Red Bull Ring

Thought I’d go ahead and post this a bit early as the entry list is out and there are some interesting developments. Entries by class:

P2: What was a 15-car field at Silverstone and 14-car field at Imola is down to 11 cars for the third round at the Red Bull Ring. The three cars that were at Imola that won’t be at the RBR are:

#22 So24 by Lombard Ligier JSP2/Judd
#28 Idec Sport Ligier JSP2/Judd
#34 Race Performance Oreca 03R/Judd

The absence of these three cars leaves the LMP2 field entirely Nissan-powered!

P3: 19 cars this time, all Ligier JS P3 - Nissan. The Ave Riley’s homologation has been delayed, so it won’t race at the Red Bull Ring. Murphy won’t be running in LMP3 this race with some other car type as a temporary replacement, so we’re down a car versus Imola.

GTE-AM: The same eight cars that were at Imola are scheduled to be at the RBR.

The weekend’s complete schedule is available here. A shorter version with just ELMS events is here.
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Old 12 Jul 2016, 20:20 (Ref:3658593)   #2
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And an update on the Murphy Prototype driver line: Karun Chandhok and Guglielmo Berlotti will be in the #48 LMP2 car for the Red Bull Ring in addition to Sean Doyle.

And on the Ave-Rile LMP3 car:
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The debut of the new Ave-Riley AR-2 has yet again been put off due to ongoing testing. In contrast to earlier in the season, the team will not use a different LMP3 chassis but instead will solely focus on its LMP2 Oreca this weekend.

Tony Ave has told Sportscar365 that the plan is to debut the AR-2 at the Four Hours of Spa in September.
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The weekend’s complete schedule is available here. A shorter version with just ELMS events is here.
Here's the international time conversion service links for the ELMS sessions:
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I guess we know why So24 isn't at Red Bull Ring. Team has withdrawn from the Le Mans Series and has filed for the EU equivlant of Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection per SC365.
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Here's the international time conversion service links for the ELMS sessions:
El stupido has made a mistake for the (caption of the) last link, I apologize, here's the corrected version:
Also on another note, for one tententher who is in a similar (geographic) situation like myself ("Between Nordschleife and Österreichring") and plans to visit the WEC 6h, and will be at Zeltweg, and doesn't have a ticket for the Nuerburgring yet (or wants one more), I have a free whole weekend ticket to give away (bought two, ended up only needing one). Meet me at the track (PM me to claim, first come, first served) on Sat after the quali up to Sun shortly after the race to pick it up.

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I guess we know why So24 isn't at Red Bull Ring. Team has withdrawn from the Le Mans Series and has filed for the EU equivlant of Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection per SC365.
Not the only LMP2 team not paying its staff and bills.....
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Old 15 Jul 2016, 12:14 (Ref:3658939)   #7
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DSC Friday morning update here. Highlight:

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All the expected entrants were present ahead of the first track action this morning, a Bronze test, this, we believe, the ELMS response to some notably poor driving standards at Imola amongst a number of LMP3 teams. That session starts, for 30 minutes, at 9:35 on Friday morning.

The only full season LMP3 team not set to race this weekend are Murphy Prototypes, but, as covered earlier this week on DSC, they tested the Ave Riley AR-2 here on Tuesday, as the car nears its final homologation. The car is now expected to race next time out at Paul Ricard.
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Are you talking about Irish green?
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Free Practice 1 results are available here and a S365 summary is here. Fastest times by class:

LMP2: Harry Ticknell for G-Drive Racing at 1:21.809.
LMP3: Simon Gachet for Panis Barthez Competition at 1:26.644.
GTE-Am: Matteo Cairoli for Proton Competition at 1:28.824.
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Are you talking about Irish green?
I know some of the lads that work in the pits for Murphy Prototype and no mention of non payment of wages.

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@*"*&^$$%@*&!!!!!! track limits!! argh!!
(I hope #88 gets at least two of their qualifying laps deleted and that pole should not stand)
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@*"*&^$$%@*&!!!!!! track limits!! argh!!
(I hope #88 gets at least two of their qualifying laps deleted and that pole should not stand)
They only delete if the car improves in that particular sector so perhaps they didn't on those occasions.

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As happened with other series, the track is ~2.5s faster this year. I think this will be a good race as the track is very racey and nice
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This series is a perfect example of why we should have unified GT rules. 8 GTE cars.
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There have been fewer cars in previous years ....

But I agree in principle, this haranguing between the various organisations isn't helping matters at all.
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And 11 or so in the GT3-only two hour race...
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But I agree in principle, this haranguing between the various organisations isn't helping matters at all.
That's what I mean, the GTE grid for this has never been as healthy as the LMP grid. I'd still replace GTE Am (in all series) with GT3 and keep the Am class, but with GT3 machines.
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Bit silly taking so long to get the cars gapped properly.

Excellent start from van der Garde, jumping up to second and immediately on Buret's gearbox. Alex Brundle also moving well up the LMP3 field, as expected after the poor show in qualifying.

Edit - Guido, this isn't single seater racing, you don't want to be clipping Gommendy when he's already past and the barriers are so close to the track!
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Pretty sure the Panis Barthez car jumped the start massively. He gapped the TDS car before the green lights were on.
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Bit silly taking so long to get the cars gapped properly.

Excellent start from van der Garde, jumping up to second and immediately on Buret's gearbox. Alex Brundle also moving well up the LMP3 field, as expected after the poor show in qualifying.

Edit - Guido, this isn't single seater racing, you don't want to be clipping Gommendy when he's already past and the barriers are so close to the track!
I thought that was gommendys fault. Moved over on the nose of the G Drive car.
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P2 drivers being rough in traffic already!
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I thought that was gommendys fault. Moved over on the nose of the G Drive car.
To me Gommendy was 3/4 (of a car) ahead when he moved, so I'd put the onus on Guido to concede. Granted, both drivers were rather feisty for the opening laps of a 4 hour race.

Speaking of feisty, the leading P2s might want to take it a bit easier in traffic!

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Buret is a bit crazy. Matter of time till he has his accident, or penalty.

Also, this track is fantastic. It's brilliant after seeing nonsense like Paul Ricard, and things like Bahrain and China due later in the year.
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Might be a busy day in the #23 pit box, they've got to fix the front right headlight pronto.

Edit - Huge slide for Buret! Goes for a gap that isn't there trying to lap the #66 JMW into the last corner, side-slams Butcher, saves himself (thanks to the large runoff, otherwise that would have been a race-ending shunt) and rejoins in 4th. There must be damage as well.

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Looks like some idiot missed the first 30 minutes.
Nice battle for the lead now though
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