LMS Round 2: Monza, April 25-27, 2008 - Page 5

JAG · 25 Apr 2008, 18:50 (Ref:2186886)

Fastest Oreca:- 1:36.121

Fastest Pescarolo:- 1:37.516

1.4 seconds difference, yet one is a new kid on the block, the other has been running in similar spec/aero for 3-4 years.

kingkai · 25 Apr 2008, 19:20 (Ref:2186904)

What happened to the GT2 AM V8? changed it back to a Porsche?

chernaudi · 25 Apr 2008, 19:27 (Ref:2186910)

I'm kind of surpised that the Pugs are so fast when you consider that they're much heavier than the R10s-could it be the coupe bodywork, or is the R10 just godawful on F1 type circuits?

cmk · 25 Apr 2008, 19:48 (Ref:2186929)

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Originally Posted by kingkai

What happened to the GT2 AM V8? changed it back to a Porsche?

They are not running it for some reason, but it did not change back into a Porsche. The 997 they are fielding has always been entered for the season alongside the Aston.

chernaudi · 25 Apr 2008, 19:51 (Ref:2186930)

Let me ask this, does one think that Audi trying to make the R10 competitive with the LMP2 cars in the ALMS compormised it's effectiveness in the LMS?

Truckosaurus · 25 Apr 2008, 20:32 (Ref:2186943)

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Originally Posted by HORNDAWG

On the RLM home page on the left hand side is a column with several options in it. If you click on the 'Le Mans Series' bar it will bring up the information on the broadcasts including times.

Fancy having to find a second page on a site. I'm a busy fellow you know.

Dead-Eye · 25 Apr 2008, 20:51 (Ref:2186957)

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Originally Posted by chernaudi

Let me ask this, does one think that Audi trying to make the R10 competitive with the LMP2 cars in the ALMS compormised it's effectiveness in the LMS?

IMO beating Peugeot at Le Mans is going to be Audi's primary objective this year. I don't see that being pushed aside for ALMS.

HORNDAWG · 25 Apr 2008, 22:33 (Ref:2187005)

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Originally Posted by Dead-Eye

IMO beating Peugeot at Le Mans is going to be Audi's primary objective this year. I don't see that being pushed aside for ALMS.

I think he was asking if the adjustments and development already done on the R-10 to compete with the P-2's in the ALMS over the last couple of seasons has compromised the R-10 from its original Le Mans high speed design and therefore somewhat hobbled it against the 908.

L.P.

minimangler · 26 Apr 2008, 00:43 (Ref:2187038)

I think maybe it has- but then again, they could run in a hyrbid Le Mans/ALMS spec for LMS. Or just Le Mans spec for Monza.

chernaudi · 26 Apr 2008, 03:19 (Ref:2187081)

The R10s in the few photos I've seen are still running the ALMS high downforce bodywork. And that's what I'm getting at-has Audi's(so far successful) attempts to re-establish their ALMS dominance on the tight twist tracks hurt them on the LMS' F1 circuits, where straightline speed matters more than downforce(example, Monza and Mosport are probably about as fast, but at Mosport, cornering speed pays the dividends, and at Monza, straightline speed is the key)?

chernaudi · 26 Apr 2008, 03:37 (Ref:2187085)

And a more serious question, the 908 supposidly uses the same tire sizes as the R10, correct? Well, back in '03, Bentley wasn't afforded the luxury of having a lot of rubber on the Speed 8-they had to use LMP2/LMP675 tires on their car. But their performance didn't suffer, and they triple and quadruple stinted their narrow tires.

Is the fact that the Peugeot is a diesel behind why they can run LMP1 spec tire on their car, since the Pug is technically a GTP car(like the Bentley), or has the equilvalent GTP class been dead since '03?

vorsprung · 26 Apr 2008, 04:36 (Ref:2187105)

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Originally Posted by chernaudi

Is the fact that the Peugeot is a diesel behind why they can run LMP1 spec tire on their car, since the Pug is technically a GTP car(like the Bentley), or has the equilvalent GTP class been dead since '03?

Some cockpit and rollover structure dimensions are the only difference between current rules cuopé and open cars. Engine and tyre handicapping died with the LMP900 and GTP rules at the end of 2004.

Kai · 26 Apr 2008, 06:07 (Ref:2187124)

Hmmm WR is 14 seconds off the leading LMP2's pace in both sessions. Might have to go back to the drawing board. Yes, it's a new chassis and the drivers aren't really up to par (as far as I can tell) and all that but still...

sceptic · 26 Apr 2008, 07:57 (Ref:2187178)

Radiolemans is on for practice...

gwyllion · 26 Apr 2008, 08:50 (Ref:2187214)

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Originally Posted by sceptic

Radiolemans is on for practice...

gwyllion · 26 Apr 2008, 08:52 (Ref:2187217)

Minassian just did 1:32.478

Audi must be getting scared.

Gil Abobeleira · 26 Apr 2008, 08:54 (Ref:2187219)

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Originally Posted by gwyllion

Minassian just did 1:32.478

Audi must be getting scared.

That's 2 seconds faster than last year!!!

Are they going to be able to break the 3m20s bracket at Le Mans?

vorsprung · 26 Apr 2008, 08:58 (Ref:2187223)

Dindo improves to 1.33.4

I was almost ready to change my GT2 pole prediction from Porsche to Ferrari, but then Davison put up a nice lap.

gwyllion · 26 Apr 2008, 08:59 (Ref:2187225)

Dindo just replied with 1:33.407.

gwyllion · 26 Apr 2008, 09:05 (Ref:2187230)

Peugot into 1:31.

Gil Abobeleira · 26 Apr 2008, 09:06 (Ref:2187232)

Mic: 1m31.6s!!!!

Lamy: 1m32.5s

Dindo: 1m33.0s

vorsprung · 26 Apr 2008, 09:08 (Ref:2187233)

Minassian 1:31.606

Will Peugeots brake 1:30 in qualifying?

Speed-King · 26 Apr 2008, 09:10 (Ref:2187235)

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Originally Posted by vorsprung

Minassian 1:31.606

Will Peugeots brake 1:30 in qualifying?

I wonder how much sand-bagging is going on at Peugeot... Everytime the Audis come even close, they are able to widen the gap to over a second again within a few minutes.

Gil Abobeleira · 26 Apr 2008, 09:27 (Ref:2187243)

Some rough calculation: that lap was an impressive average of 227.66 km/h!

sssssssss · 26 Apr 2008, 09:30 (Ref:2187247)

Barcelona: 1. Lamy/Sarrazin Peugeot 908 Hdi-FAP 1:31.875
2. Gene/Minassian Peugeot 908 Hdi-FAP 1:32.454
3. Capello/McNish Audi R10 TDI 1:33.250
5. Premat/Rockenfeller Audi R10 TDI 1:34.671Monza:

1. Gene/Minassian Peugeot 908 Hdi-FAP 1:31.606
2. Lamy/Sarrazin Peugeot 908 Hdi-FAP 1:32.555
3. Capello/McNish Audi R10 TDI 1:33.055
4. Premat/Rockenfeller Audi R10 TDI 1:34.581

the times at monza now look very similar to those at barcelona. now we'll see if audi have managed to close some of that gap from catalunya on.

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