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Old 25 Jan 2012, 07:10 (Ref:3016614)   #1301
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Ishiura is legit quick. I saw his performance in Super GT last year and he was a revelation. Buemi is fast but I don't think his temperament would suit LMPs for now. Look at Klien in Le Mans 2008, totally undoing the demonic pace of Franck Montagny and the lead by beaching it in the gravel.

I have never totally forgiven him for that.
hahaha oh man I remember that. Couldn't believe what was happening when he ran off.

I do think that having an undisputed lead driver such as Wurz will benefit the younger drivers immensely (Nakajima and Buemi specifically since Lapierre already has a good amount of Le Mans experience). While he doesn't have the stat sheet of someone like McNish, he's been around prototypes for a long time and has proven himself as a valuable developmental driver and racer.
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Old 25 Jan 2012, 07:19 (Ref:3016616)   #1302
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From the spy shots before the official release it looked like the holes were there. Now they're covered up, or at least they have louvers.
The holes that are now covered by louvers are too small. Clearly this is the base aero package which will be further developed during the next month.

Mike believes that they will also test a more R18-like aero package instead of the current 908-inspired package.
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A red and white Peugeot? The Peugeot solution is very evident here. Though we expect large evolutionary changes regarding the car's design and understand a "R18" solution is in the works as a testing option.
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Old 25 Jan 2012, 07:21 (Ref:3016617)   #1303
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dont make it look like that horrible black bus :S

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Old 25 Jan 2012, 07:40 (Ref:3016621)   #1304
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Here you go guys.
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Old 25 Jan 2012, 07:44 (Ref:3016623)   #1305
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Nice. I was wondering why toyota-motorsport.com wasn't updated at all.

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Old 25 Jan 2012, 07:44 (Ref:3016624)   #1306
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R18 solution could just be a bigger or wider front nose cone. It's wise to test both versions to see if there is any gain with either configuration. I wonder what else they could take from the R18? Anything they see they can test and work around to make gains to their own car. Wurz said that this is just a basic aero package, and there's more to come. So obviously, applying the holes in the fenders, new aero designs will be coming.
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Old 25 Jan 2012, 07:55 (Ref:3016626)   #1307
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R18 solution could just be a bigger or wider front nose cone.
The nose cone is part of the crash structure and hence it will probably not change. I guess that a "R18" solution means opening up the nose and passing air through the front suspension.
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Old 25 Jan 2012, 08:27 (Ref:3016632)   #1308
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I don't see how they couldn't make a wider nose cone. Apart of the crash structure or not. The whole front end could change. The openings behind the front fenders look like the DOME S102, but crude. That could change as well. I'm not saying it's definite, just a suggestion.
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Old 25 Jan 2012, 08:30 (Ref:3016633)   #1309
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Old 25 Jan 2012, 08:46 (Ref:3016637)   #1310
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Cool video, shows their F1 cars and the TF110, then the TS020 as well. Amazed how he didn't know the track. He must not play Gran Turismo.
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Old 25 Jan 2012, 08:52 (Ref:3016638)   #1311
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Old 25 Jan 2012, 08:59 (Ref:3016643)   #1312
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The 908 also initially used a front end like the old 908 where the air flowed into/through the front suspension that was abandoned after Sebring. It guess that it might depend on areo or cooling requirements. But both the Audi and Pug solutions were based on the '03 Bentley GTP cars, and it seems that Audi will stick with it (at least for now) with the R18 and that Toyota is interested in testing such a system.

I guess that the advantage with the Audi nose is that air flows above/below the front diffuser to increase downforce and have a more direct path to the sidepods, but the disadvantage is increased drag and potentially risking more debris getting into the radiator intakes (though Audi and Peugeot have/had removable screens, and even the closed Lolas did--I'd suspect that the TS030 might have something similar).

Also, could the TS030 use the BHH just by changing louver panels--they seem to be detachable.
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Old 25 Jan 2012, 09:18 (Ref:3016649)   #1313
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In the aftermath of Peugeot's withdrawal, the revelation of the 'seriousness' of the Toyota programme is very welcome indeed. A huge welcome back to the pinnacle of sportscar racing from 10Tenths Motorsport Forum!
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Old 25 Jan 2012, 09:25 (Ref:3016656)   #1314
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On behalf of us all, I'd just like to say a huge thank you to Sam for his outstanding coverage of the launch and for taking the time to clarify queries and answer questions. Top man!
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Old 25 Jan 2012, 09:27 (Ref:3016659)   #1315
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The panels above the wheels do look to be removable. They probably designed this purposely.
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The panels above the wheels do look to be removable. They probably designed this purposely.
Wrong shape?
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Old 25 Jan 2012, 09:31 (Ref:3016663)   #1317
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For the big holes that are mandated for this year. Found some videos- one FLAT out and another entering the pits- http://www.twitvid.com/DOR06
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The panels above the wheels do look to be removable. They probably designed this purposely.
This is common practice.

I don't see a removable panel for the rear fenders, only for the fronts. I suspect that the hole above the rear wheels, which is now covered with louvers, is not big enough.
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I noticed that as well. The car is yet finished and what were looking at is just it's 'opening act'. Gladly wait to see the development of it though. I've always taken an interest into the aero solutions these cars gain during their life.
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Sorry for the double post- but Nico Lapierre's twitter is interesting. He shows his helmet- http://twitter.com/#!/Nico_Lapierre
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Old 25 Jan 2012, 09:44 (Ref:3016673)   #1321
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If they can leave the pits on electric power, that'll save some fuel surely!
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Here is a video of the TS030 leaving the pits in full electric mode: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RjfhAFOhp4
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If they can leave the pits on electric power, that'll save some fuel surely!
Im not sure they are allowed that!?
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