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Old 2 Feb 2014, 13:19 (Ref:3363249)   #301
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One problem with a german round is that the Nürburgring is currently for sale. Don't know what the problem with Hockenheim would be, though.
Well, the track for sale is Nordschleife instead of GP circuit. As for a replacement, Hockenheim is a bit too narrow for multi class racing.Maybe Lauztsring (Euro speedway, whatever that is called on DTM calender) for its oval good for passing.
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Old 2 Feb 2014, 14:08 (Ref:3363257)   #302
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Well, the track for sale is Nordschleife instead of GP circuit. As for a replacement, Hockenheim is a bit too narrow for multi class racing.Maybe Lauztsring (Euro speedway, whatever that is called on DTM calender) for its oval good for passing.
All the Nurburgring assets are up for sale so that includes the GP track, Nordhschleiffe but also the doomed entertainment parc...
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Old 2 Feb 2014, 17:35 (Ref:3363298)   #303
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Well, the track for sale is Nordschleife instead of GP circuit. As for a replacement, Hockenheim is a bit too narrow for multi class racing.Maybe Lauztsring (Euro speedway, whatever that is called on DTM calender) for its oval good for passing.
I've said this before but a WEC round on the longest Lausitzring option (with the test oval) would be epic!
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Old 2 Feb 2014, 18:27 (Ref:3363323)   #304
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Still a really dull track with no traditions and no endurance pedigree. Hmm, maybe they will consider it then...
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Old 2 Feb 2014, 18:41 (Ref:3363330)   #305
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Still a really dull track with no traditions and no endurance pedigree. Hmm, maybe they will consider it then...
I don't think that layout is dull at all, and as for tradition they don't really seem to favour it anyway..
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Old 2 Feb 2014, 19:35 (Ref:3363350)   #306
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I don't think that layout is dull at all, and as for tradition they don't really seem to favour it anyway..
And maybe if they hold some races there it will have some in the future (ala petit le mans)
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Everyone craps on Bahrain like the middle east isn't a huge market for the manufacturers. Then half if not more of the sponsors come from that area as well. Plus its the only race other than Le Mans that runs into the night.
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Everyone craps on Bahrain like the middle east isn't a huge market for the manufacturers. Then half if not more of the sponsors come from that area as well. Plus its the only race other than Le Mans that runs into the night.
I think some people would prefer the race be moved to a different Middle Eastern track in a less controversial country, e.g. Yas Marina Circuit or Dubai Autodrome
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Every country is controversial. That whole area has conflicting views on traditional beliefs and human rights. Not just Bahrain.

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Old 3 Feb 2014, 02:15 (Ref:3363461)   #310
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Not too many axe to grind on the middle east though. A round at Bahrain, Dubai, or Yas Marina will be perfect to market luxurious cars, can't be referred to as irrelevant to manufacturers. Besides, a great amount of privateers are counting on them. (e.
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Still a really dull track with no traditions and no endurance pedigree. Hmm, maybe they will consider it then...
The only racing I've seen from there is DTM and that's pretty dull anyway, so not sure whether to blame the track really.
As for traditions and endurance pedigree they come through time.

Isn't the Lausitzring miles away from a decent population centre though?
No point holding a race in the middle of nowhere.
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Isn't the Lausitzring miles away from a decent population centre though?
No point holding a race in the middle of nowhere.
Indeed, the track is located in an area that is colloquially known as "German Siberia".
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Old 3 Feb 2014, 12:07 (Ref:3363596)   #313
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Its only about 100km from Berlin, with good road, less then 1 hour? In Sweden we'd call that next door...
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Lucas Di Grassi steps up to be a full season entry. Wait and See...Not bad choice I'd say.
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The only racing I've seen from there is DTM and that's pretty dull anyway, so not sure whether to blame the track really.
As for traditions and endurance pedigree they come through time.

Isn't the Lausitzring miles away from a decent population centre though?
No point holding a race in the middle of nowhere.
The layout the DTM races on is a lot different from the one I'm talking about though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVPNE9w8Khw
http://www.lausitzring.de/besucherpo...ke-113-km.html

11.3 Km
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Old 3 Feb 2014, 12:57 (Ref:3363604)   #316
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How about a street race, the Audi looked pretty good at Norisring



It seemed to work pretty well in Baltimore too:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJGO5vpFQKA
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The layout the DTM races on is a lot different from the one I'm talking about though.

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IIRC not all parts of the long layout are up to proper racing safety standards... the banked corners on the test oval have only armco on the top side instead of proper barriers and the chicanes on the outer part are quite narrow as well.
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Ok, this is getting silly, 8 Star and 4 AF Corse cars for WEC, who will also have two P2 cars for SMP and have two further GT Am auto entries for Le Mans. 9 cars run by one team is a bit too much, don't we think?

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Ok, this is getting silly, 8 Star and 4 AF Corse cars for WEC, who will also have two P2 cars for SMP and have two further GT Am auto entries for Le Mans. 9 cars run by one team is a bit too much, don't we think?
I'd rather see healthy grids than unnecessary team limits. I'm sure if it would help they could split the team into several smaller teams with slightly different names if that would make things better?
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It looks very good, but the race event might have over 100 laps...
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It looks very good, but the race event might have over 100 laps...
Considering the Audi was lapping at about 50 seconds, I'd imagine we are talking well over 300 laps for a 6-hour race
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Considering the Audi was lapping at about 50 seconds, I'd imagine we are talking well over 300 laps for a 6-hour race
Oh my gosh.
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Personally I'd love that, as a shorter, two-driver race, say 300 or 500km. But pie in the sky.
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In the old WSC Norisring wasn't a full length race...
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In the old WSC Norisring wasn't a full length race...
Yeah, just like a sprint race with about 25-50 laps, or with 45 minutes or less...
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