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Old 9 May 2007, 14:36 (Ref:1909908)   #326
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Call it an "American obsession with statistics", but interestingly enough, the LMS BPR tables have garnered more attention than those of the ALMS on Sportscar Analytics...
maybe LMS gets more attention in general than ALMS
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Old 9 May 2007, 16:10 (Ref:1909973)   #327
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maybe LMS gets more attention in general than ALMS
Even considering the drastic differences in gate numbers and TV exposure, you could be right... but it still stands that attention to statistics isn't just an "American" phenomena!

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Old 9 May 2007, 17:37 (Ref:1910016)   #328
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Hope its ok to quote the DSC interview with Stefan Mücke
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Was your move at the end of the straight a fair one?

“For me it was normal racing. In the DTM you have every lap like this, and it is normal that you fight for position, especially at the end of the race.”
Seems like all questions are answered now
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Old 9 May 2007, 17:43 (Ref:1910020)   #329
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Hope its ok to quote the DSC interview with Stefan Mücke


Seems like all questions are answered now
yes, he should stay in DTM
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Old 9 May 2007, 17:50 (Ref:1910025)   #330
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I keep hoping that a clip of these "incidents" will pop up on the web.
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Old 9 May 2007, 17:56 (Ref:1910032)   #331
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yes, he should stay in DTM
Henk4: Who is kicking out real racing from Zandvoort for a DTM race ? (the dutch)
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Old 10 May 2007, 11:42 (Ref:1910248)   #332
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Does anyone know if Courage have sorted out their cooling issue's yet ?

Did they have the same issue at Valencia ?
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Old 10 May 2007, 11:45 (Ref:1910250)   #333
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Henk4: Who is kicking out real racing from Zandvoort for a DTM race ? (the dutch)
I have no idea what you are talking about. DTM is one of things I don't follow at all, at looking at Mr. Mucke's driving standards and morale, rightly so.
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Old 10 May 2007, 12:13 (Ref:1910269)   #334
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Does anyone know if Courage have sorted out their cooling issue's yet ?

Did they have the same issue at Valencia ?
Not that I am aware of, however they were way off the pace (even compared to their LMP2 customers)
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Old 10 May 2007, 12:32 (Ref:1910284)   #335
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Not that I am aware of, however they were way off the pace (even compared to their LMP2 customers)
Maybe also because Gounon was in one of the customer cars....
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Old 10 May 2007, 12:36 (Ref:1910287)   #336
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he was not on the Saulnier one...
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Old 10 May 2007, 12:39 (Ref:1910291)   #337
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he was not on the Saulnier one...
Del Bello?
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Old 10 May 2007, 17:22 (Ref:1910466)   #338
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Del Bello?
What I meant was that both del Bello (with Gounon on) and the Saulnier car looked much more comfortable at Valencia than their bigger (works) brother. Del Bello even led the class until they came in for a pitstop that looked like a scene from a Harold Lloyd film and Saulnier grabbed 2nd. The works Courage was back on the truck on its way to La Sarthe by then. I am sure they will do a much better job at Le Mans!
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Old 10 May 2007, 17:43 (Ref:1910494)   #339
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What I meant was that both del Bello (with Gounon on) and the Saulnier car looked much more comfortable at Valencia than their bigger (works) brother. Del Bello even led the class until they came in for a pitstop that looked like a scene from a Harold Lloyd film and Saulnier grabbed 2nd. The works Courage was back on the truck on its way to La Sarthe by then. I am sure they will do a much better job at Le Mans!
yeah but my implicit question was why put Courage's admittedly fastest driver in a customer car? Where they already certain that the race was going to be a short one and they wanted to provide Gounon with some fun?
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yeah but my implicit question was why put Courage's admittedly fastest driver in a customer car?
I thought it was something to do with there been just the one LMP1 Courage entered as the second car was being used in full scale wind tunnel tests (to iron out their cooling issues perhaps). I presumed this second car is the one Gounon normally drives. I could be talking utter rubbish of course!

Anyway, I've done my usual trick of watching highlights of the race a week later so I've got some questions. I would be grateful if people could shed some light on things which were not immediately clear in the 1hr 50mins highlights show. Thanks.

(a) What was the nature of the problems suffered by the Barazi and Arena
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(b) What happened to the RML car? I barely saw it in the program.

(c) What happened to the single LMP1 Courage. I saw a brief shot if it being towed.

(d) Where were the LNT Panozs. The driver pairing in one of cars looks pretty hot on paper. Is it a case of the F430 and 997 moving the performance bar too high in the class?

On a more general level, what is going on with the LMP1 Chamberlain Lola? They seem to be nowhere in terms of pace. The team and drivers did a pretty respectable when they run in LMP2 last year (didn't they win the class?). Is the step to the top class proving too much? Also, how on earth did the ASM car manage to take the class win, from what I could see they had a somewhat costly spin towards the end of the race. I know the car is fast but...

PS: Is it me or does the Speedy Racing Spyker look absolutely lovely in that colour scheme?
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Old 13 May 2007, 10:25 (Ref:1912097)   #341
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(a) What was the nature of the problems suffered by the Barazi and Arena
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Barazi-gearbox problems
Arena Zytek-Engine problem

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(b) What happened to the RML car? I barely saw it in the program.

RML had a lot of minor problems; for example a snapped alternator belt I think was the first problem, and later I think the rear diffuser was damage.

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(c) What happened to the single LMP1 Courage. I saw a brief shot if it being towed.
Paddleshift problem

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(d) Where were the LNT Panozs. The driver pairing in one of cars looks pretty hot on paper. Is it a case of the F430 and 997 moving the performance bar too high in the class?
430GT and 997 are much faster than Panoz or Spyker, we saw at Monza too.

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On a more general level, what is going on with the LMP1 Chamberlain Lola? They seem to be nowhere in terms of pace. The team and drivers did a pretty respectable when they run in LMP2 last year (didn't they win the class?). Is the step to the top class proving too much? Also, how on earth did the ASM car manage to take the class win, from what I could see they had a somewhat costly spin towards the end of the race. I know the car is fast but...
Barazi won LMS LMP2 2006 title with a Courage C65 (and ASM won at Nurburgring and Jarama; ASM Lola was also 3rd overall in Jarama). I think Chamberlain only raced in LMP2 in Istambul and Spa (where they won LMP2), but they also raced in LMP1, and Chamberlain Lola was one of the slowest cars though very reliable (3rd in LMP1)

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PS: Is it me or does the Speedy Racing Spyker look absolutely lovely in that colour scheme?
I absolutely agree with you!
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Old 13 May 2007, 10:49 (Ref:1912113)   #342
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Chamberlain Synergy (Gareth Evans) won the LMP2 drivers title in 2005
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Old 13 May 2007, 13:12 (Ref:1912234)   #343
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Thanks very much, Mirage M6.
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Old 13 May 2007, 13:48 (Ref:1912281)   #344
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Just to be a bit more specific than Mirage M6, the Arena Zytek had a series of throttle cables breaking rather than having a problem with the engine itself.
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Old 13 May 2007, 17:20 (Ref:1912455)   #345
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Thanks to everyone who has answered my questions. Appreciated. Well, I've just digested the classification table (as you do when you've got nothing better to do on a wet Sunday afternoon) and it appears I've got some more questions so here goes:

a) I noticed relatively few of the GT2 runners are on Michelins, the majority are running Dunlops and Pirellis. Why is this? Is it a case of the performance being closely matched between the suppliers in this class hence its not so crucial whose tyres you use or am I talking cobblers?

b) What happened to the Racing for Holland Dome? It looks like it retired about half way through.

c) I fancied the Mowlem/Rosa/Drudi GPC F430 to win the class but it seems they had a bit of a nightmare. Again, what happened?

d) The final 'what happened' concerns the Kimber-Smith/Watts Panoz Esperante. Neither LNT car saw the finish.

Not strictly a question but is it me or is the LMP2 Radical's reliability a bit of an issue? I for one was glad to the see the Bruichladdich car finish but the Embassy lot must be tearing their hair out, they don't seem to get much mileage out of the thing before it packs up on race day!

I really must watch the races live. There was far too much on last weekend.
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Old 13 May 2007, 18:02 (Ref:1912489)   #346
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b) What happened to the Racing for Holland Dome? It looks like it retired about half way through.
they got involved in the Synergy Lola's "beside track" activities and after the car refused to restart.
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Old 13 May 2007, 19:29 (Ref:1912552)   #347
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Barazi-gearbox problems
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Small correction : Barazi was paddleshift problems (confirmed by Michael vergers after the race)
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Although it had the Chamberlain banner, the #39 yellow LMP2 Lola in 2006 was effectively Amaral's ASM team. The "real" Chamberlain team did LMP1 with their yellow #19 Lola and their pace was as this year.
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Although it had the Chamberlain banner, the #39 yellow LMP2 Lola in 2006 was effectively Amaral's ASM team. The "real" Chamberlain team did LMP1 with their yellow #19 Lola and their pace was as this year.
Yes I've remembered now...so ASM really won at Spa 06 in LMP2 (and was named Chamberlain Synergy in the entry list), and Chamberlain only raced in LMP1.

Anyone know what kind of relation had ASM and Chamberlain?
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Yes I've remembered now...so ASM really won at Spa 06 in LMP2 (and was named Chamberlain Synergy in the entry list), and Chamberlain only raced in LMP1.

Anyone know what kind of relation had ASM and Chamberlain?
Chamberlain won P2 LMS championship in 2005 so they had an entry in P2 for Le Mans. Maybe that was the main reason, because after Le Mans the Iberian teams name changed to ASM.
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