LM24 Le Mans 2009 - Official Entry List - Page 6

airbusA346 · 1 Mar 2009, 11:37 (Ref:2406564)

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Originally Posted by cmk

That being said, #103 was very heavily pranged by Jiri Janak in practice at Zolder(?). Has it ever been properly repaired?

Oh yeah, totally forgot about that crash.

It was Nogaro by the way.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6y...ston-mart_auto

And how do you know it was #103?

Tom.

AstonGeoff · 1 Mar 2009, 16:29 (Ref:2406722)

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Originally Posted by HORNDAWG

I would imagine they would use the chassis that in the best shape. Wasn't one of them found to be deficient last year?

L.P.

More like the drivers I reckon. Wendlinger and Sharp were a great duo, and usually much faster than the other two. It would be great to see those two back in the car for LM.

cmk · 2 Mar 2009, 01:43 (Ref:2407026)

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Originally Posted by airbusA346

Oh yeah, totally forgot about that crash.

It was Nogaro by the way.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6y...ston-mart_auto

And how do you know it was #103?

Tom.

#105 raced after at Zolder for Wendlinger/Sharp (who also raced it all season long).

The Badger · 2 Mar 2009, 08:08 (Ref:2407166)

As I suspected . Lucas Lichter-Hoyer is conformed as the first driver for the JatAlliance car .

Thats finished that cars chances as a front runner ..... oh dear !!!

deggis · 2 Mar 2009, 21:38 (Ref:2407631)

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Originally Posted by Mal

Autosport has an interview with Tonio Luizzi in which he says he is looking for a drive at Le Mans this year any speculation as to where it may come from -

3rd Audi?
3rd Aston?
Pescarolo?
Porsche Spyder?

http://www.grandprix.com/ns/ns21217.html

But I wouldn't count too much on that since it claims Charouz would run all of the three Astons...

The359 · 3 Mar 2009, 22:27 (Ref:2408480)

Out of the list of 55, are there any which people think might drop out? We know the AMR Eastern Europe is iffy right now. Is Creation still trying to scrounge money or are they going to abandon ALMS for a run at Le Mans?

I think it'd be nice to, at the very least, get Team Seattle and China Endurance into the race.

cmk · 4 Mar 2009, 00:47 (Ref:2408556)

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Originally Posted by The359

Out of the list of 55, are there any which people think might drop out? We know the AMR Eastern Europe is iffy right now. Is Creation still trying to scrounge money or are they going to abandon ALMS for a run at Le Mans?

I think it'd be nice to, at the very least, get Team Seattle and China Endurance into the race.

I'm not sure it's a one or the other thing with Creation. Keep in mind that backers may be interested in one but not the other. Sometimes that works against an LM run (Tafel with Bell Micro in '08) but sometimes it works in its favour. Or, alternatively, it may be much simpler to get a gentleman or 2 interested in funding an LM drive than anything in ALMS P1 right now...

I personally would be happy if nobody dropped out because, IMO, the list is stronger now than it would be with any of the current cars replaced by the first 2 reserves.

The Badger · 4 Mar 2009, 14:17 (Ref:2408841)

I sincerly hope that nobody drops out , cuz next reserve is another bloody Fiat !!!

canam · 4 Mar 2009, 15:03 (Ref:2408874)

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Originally Posted by The359

Out of the list of 55, are there any which people think might drop out? We know the AMR Eastern Europe is iffy right now. Is Creation still trying to scrounge money or are they going to abandon ALMS for a run at Le Mans?

I think everyone is on the scrounge: GM, Ford, Aston Martin, Jaguar, Chrysler as well as Larry Flynt! ...and those boys are asking for huge wedge. Toyota, Nissan, Honda, Peugeot et al are looking around for what they can get. I would suspect that some of the privateers on the grids are in better financial condition than the big boys (GM etc.)--who are most likely technically insolvent if not bankrupt.

cmk · 4 Mar 2009, 15:18 (Ref:2408884)

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Originally Posted by The Badger

I sincerly hope that nobody drops out , cuz next reserve is another bloody Fiat !!!

Crewed by a bunch of charitable gentlemen. No serious threat for the win against the 3 strong Porkers, don't worry. Though I still worry that the lack of entry for that car may relieve us of a chance at an all-pro AF Corse car like in '08. Even you, Badger, would surely like more pro GT2 cars - even Fiats!

Dead-Eye · 4 Mar 2009, 17:17 (Ref:2408952)

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Originally Posted by The Badger

I sincerly hope that nobody drops out , cuz next reserve is another bloody Fiat !!!

http://www.endurance-info.com/versio...focus-281.html
...and it will be driven by McDreamy - interesting that the release doesn't mention at all that they're on the reserve list.

The Badger · 4 Mar 2009, 21:10 (Ref:2409135)

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Originally Posted by cmk

Even you, Badger, would surely like more pro GT2 cars - even Fiats!

Yeah , I have no problem with that . But I do find the odd's unfair , and personally find it disgusting , especially when you take into account , what Le Mans would have done in the lean years without Porsche . And no , there wasnt a whole lot of Fiats in Gt racing .

What in hell did Porsche do wrong to the ACO to warrant such unfair odds for two years on the trot ?

And nobody can argue that they are arnt unfair .

I just cant understand it .

Pilgrimage · 5 Mar 2009, 12:56 (Ref:2409528)

Is this more down the lack of Porsches being selected as chariots of choice by the "better" teams rather than the ACO selecting more Fezzas than Porkers?

After all this is not works teams against rival works teams...

Dunlop Corner · 5 Mar 2009, 13:34 (Ref:2409559)

I agree. Most of the strong teams have picked Ferrari. Even a team like Farnbacher has gone from the trusty Porsche to Fiat.

Risi is the only GT2 team with two cars, and they have two auto invites. The rest of the teams get only a single entry.
I would argue that a second IMSA or Felbermayer car would be more worthy than JMB or Krohn, if nothing else just to equalise the field a bit. But Krohn of course continues to get in on Risi's auto invites.

isynge · 5 Mar 2009, 19:16 (Ref:2409786)

Speculation at DSC over the Vitaphone RS Spyder and whether it's a real runner.

To be honest, with the way things might shake through the 5th on reserve list that WR ended up with (a travesty incidentally) might, if they still have the enthusiasm, see them into the race.

cmk · 5 Mar 2009, 19:34 (Ref:2409793)

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Originally Posted by The Badger

Yeah , I have no problem with that . But I do find the odd's unfair , and personally find it disgusting , especially when you take into account , what Le Mans would have done in the lean years without Porsche . And no , there wasnt a whole lot of Fiats in Gt racing .

What in hell did Porsche do wrong to the ACO to warrant such unfair odds for two years on the trot ?

And nobody can argue that they are arnt unfair .

I just cant understand it .

A lot of those Ferraris are on auto-entries, so the only people to blame are the teams themselves for being successful, and maybe Porsche AG for not doing a better job supporting 997 teams to knock them down. I don't believe the latter is a big deal, but if you need someone to vent at...

cmk · 5 Mar 2009, 19:34 (Ref:2409795)

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Originally Posted by isynge

Speculation at DSC over the Vitaphone RS Spyder and whether it's a real runner.

To be honest, with the way things might shake through the 5th on reserve list that WR ended up with (a travesty incidentally) might, if they still have the enthusiasm, see them into the race.

The phrase 'real runner' may be a bit unfair. They want to run it, but the deal is not done yet. That is true for more than one car on the grid. Welcome to 2009, year of the on-spec entry.

isynge · 5 Mar 2009, 22:12 (Ref:2409939)

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Originally Posted by cmk

The phrase 'real runner' may be a bit unfair. They want to run it, but the deal is not done yet. That is true for more than one car on the grid. Welcome to 2009, year of the on-spec entry.

Sorry - perhaps improper use of slang 'real runner' - referring exactly to CMK's point rather than any suggestion that it was vapourware.

dxk1 · 5 Mar 2009, 23:12 (Ref:2409982)

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Originally Posted by Dunlop Corner

I agree. Most of the strong teams have picked Ferrari. Even a team like Farnbacher has gone from the trusty Porsche to Fiat.

Risi is the only GT2 team with two cars, and they have two auto invites. The rest of the teams get only a single entry.
I would argue that a second IMSA or Felbermayer car would be more worthy than JMB or Krohn, if nothing else just to equalise the field a bit. But Krohn of course continues to get in on Risi's auto invites.

While Krohn certainly embarrassed himself last year, don't forget that 2 years ago it was his car that provided Ferrari with it's best GT2 finish (2nd) ever until the other Risi car won last year. Thus, I don't really see why someone else would be that much more deserving.

DK

NightStalk3r · 5 Mar 2009, 23:39 (Ref:2409993)

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Originally Posted by dxk1

While Krohn certainly embarrassed himself last year, don't forget that 2 years ago it was his car that provided Ferrari with it's best GT2 finish (2nd) ever until the other Risi car won last year. Thus, I don't really see why someone else would be that much more deserving.

DK

Was that the last time the Krohn car actually finished

dxk1 · 6 Mar 2009, 00:19 (Ref:2410005)

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Originally Posted by NightStalk3r

Was that the last time the Krohn car actually finished

Well, since Krohn has only had three entries at Le Mans, that's a 33% finishing rate. Probably better than many others I would venture.

DK

The Badger · 6 Mar 2009, 07:31 (Ref:2410095)

[QUOTE=cmk;2409793]A lot of those Ferraris are on auto-entries, so the only people to blame are the teams themselves for being successful, and maybe Porsche AG for not doing a better job supporting 997 teams to knock them down. QUOTE]

I suppose thats a fair comment ..... I wonder what has changed from last year to this year ?

Dunlop Corner · 6 Mar 2009, 09:18 (Ref:2410151)

Well last year it was 6 Ferraris against 3 Porsches, so not much has changed.

The Badger · 6 Mar 2009, 09:44 (Ref:2410176)

lol ..... im talking about Porsche development progress .

I reckon we will see a big differance , after all the negative comments that were aimed at the Porsche customer support services department .

cmk · 6 Mar 2009, 18:28 (Ref:2410520)

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Originally Posted by dxk1

Well, since Krohn has only had three entries at Le Mans, that's a 33% finishing rate. Probably better than many others I would venture.

DK

And Jorg binned the Porsche one of the other years.

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