LM24 Race Le Mans Race Thread 2007 (16/17 June) - Page 44

TheNewBob · 20 Jun 2007, 00:33 (Ref:1942161)

I think this is the appropriate place to ask this. Forgive me if it's been raised here before, but I don't particularly fancy sifting through 72 pages of posts at this time of night!

My query is with the adopted ALMS system of lights displaying who's in the first three in each class. Was it working in a different way for qualifying? Sometimes a couple of cars in the same class would go by at the same time, both with all 3 lights on. Did the system fail at some point or was it doing something different for qualifying? In the race it seemed to be ok.

It was annoying that some cars only had these lights on one side instead of both - made life very difficult for those of us who were looking out for the lights trackside.

If this has already been answered, I apologise, and could someone point me towards the appropriate posts?

paul-collins · 20 Jun 2007, 01:51 (Ref:1942188)

From what I've heard, the system was physically completely different (not in a "better" way, either) from the ALMS system.

I saw the lights start working, stop working, shut down, start up, and then for the last couple of hours both the Corvette and the Aston were in the lead... It would have been much better if it had've worked as I'm used to.

The359 · 20 Jun 2007, 01:56 (Ref:1942190)

Apparently the system would record the car's time at the finish line, but not update the lights until they were at Tertre Rouge.

johnh875 · 20 Jun 2007, 04:23 (Ref:1942229)

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Originally Posted by zac510

I may sound like I didn't have a good time at LM but that was completely not true. It was my first attendance and I did have a great time and overall the race was quality! Looking forward to watching the highlights now.

I had planned (well started to plan!) a trip over there but didn't get leave from work - perhaps next year! Can't say I missed sitting/camping in the rain etc though, especially not being able to take my usual setup

henk4 · 20 Jun 2007, 05:58 (Ref:1942255)

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Originally Posted by paul-collins

*yawn*

Can we move on, Henk?

nobody is stopping you...

WouterM · 20 Jun 2007, 06:32 (Ref:1942263)

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Originally Posted by PascaLM

There hasn't been a WM at LM for a while, my friend. Go back to your books.

There was a WM at Le Mans last year and a new car will be launched in September.

WouterM · 20 Jun 2007, 06:33 (Ref:1942264)

Quote:

Originally Posted by paul-collins

From what I've heard, the system was physically completely different (not in a "better" way, either) from the ALMS system.

I saw the lights start working, stop working, shut down, start up, and then for the last couple of hours both the Corvette and the Aston were in the lead... It would have been much better if it had've worked as I'm used to.

I think one of the lights on the Corvette was busted. When it was in third only the top and bottom lights worked.

AMICALEMANS · 20 Jun 2007, 06:40 (Ref:1942266)

Sorry but WM (Welter Meunier ) died in 1990, and it became WR (Welter Racing)...

AMICALEMANS · 20 Jun 2007, 06:43 (Ref:1942268)

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Originally Posted by WouterM

I think one of the lights on the Corvette was busted. When it was in third only the top and bottom lights worked.

The light system was ok only fore the race. They were testing it during pratice as the french speaker told several times !

**PascaLM** · 20 Jun 2007, 07:05 (Ref:1942278)

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Originally Posted by PascaLM

Surely, if there were no Peugeot, no Pescarolo, no Courage, no Larbre, no ORECA, no Epsilon, no Alphand, no Pierre Bruneau...There would be probably no chauvinistic French at all !

Oups ! I forgot IMSA Performance ! Sorry for this Raymond.

The Badger · 21 Jun 2007, 23:37 (Ref:1943797)

Ok dj choc ice ..... the Barazi Zytek looks much nicer in the flesh !!!

I actually like it now .

Mal · 22 Jun 2007, 07:34 (Ref:1943956)

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Originally Posted by henk4

then live with it and leave the conspiracy theories on your island

I have not mentioned conspiracy theories - I am generally quite happy with the way it is run which is why I have been going since 1983.

zac510 · 22 Jun 2007, 09:45 (Ref:1944060)

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Originally Posted by AMICALEMANS

The light system was ok only fore the race. They were testing it during pratice as the french speaker told several times !

Yeah I saw that. I couldn't work out what it meant when the lights were flashing though?

brielga · 22 Jun 2007, 09:57 (Ref:1944072)

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Originally Posted by henk4

Is Binnie French?

No, but be aware Chris did two laps to finish after they solved their electrical problems.....they were not waiting around the corner rather solving issues

dj choc ice · 22 Jun 2007, 15:11 (Ref:1944330)

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Originally Posted by The Badger

Ok dj choc ice ..... the Barazi Zytek looks much nicer in the flesh !!!

I actually like it now .

succes at last, knew you would come round to my way of thinking in the end

Bodysnatcher · 22 Jun 2007, 15:23 (Ref:1944336)

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Originally Posted by davehenrie

Whats the difference between the Track Marshalls moving the stricken, but not dead, Corvette and then later the Track Marshalls helping two LMP2 cars(Noel del Bellow and Zytek/Lowes) out of gravel traps.

I don't see the difference, but apparantly there is some discretion allowed?

Dave..
Marshals can move a car to a place of safety. If the driver is capable of restarting the car then he (or she) can drive off.
As one of those that put a Corvette (Gavin's 64) into a place of safety, I can assure everybody that he could not restart the engine. Therefore he could not rejoin the track. He could move the car by turning over the starter motor (but that's not allowed). Therein lies the confusion, not everybody knows the rules..

The Badger · 22 Jun 2007, 17:46 (Ref:1944427)

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Originally Posted by dj choc ice

succes at last, knew you would come round to my way of thinking in the end

And , remember me saying that I liked the Creation art theame .....well , after seeing it in the flesh , i dont !!!

brielga · 22 Jun 2007, 20:49 (Ref:1944579)

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Originally Posted by The Badger

And , remember me saying that I liked the Creation art theame .....well , after seeing it in the flesh , i dont !!!

Well done Mr. B!!!

henk4 · 22 Jun 2007, 21:03 (Ref:1944587)

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Originally Posted by brielga

No, but be aware Chris did two laps to finish after they solved their electrical problems.....they were not waiting around the corner rather solving issues

Bourdais was waiting to get his oil pressure back...

henk4 · 22 Jun 2007, 21:06 (Ref:1944588)

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Originally Posted by Mal

I have not mentioned conspiracy theories - I am generally quite happy with the way it is run which is why I have been going since 1983.

no my comment was not addressed at you personally, but to the person who implied that because Peugeot is French, Martin lost his podium spot...

Anyway, the rules of the ACO have one overriding rule, and that is that they can change them at any time at their discretion....

brielga · 22 Jun 2007, 21:20 (Ref:1944598)

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Originally Posted by henk4

Bourdais was waiting to get his oil pressure back...

that car was dying and limping to the finish, the Binnie car was back running again

henk4 · 22 Jun 2007, 21:27 (Ref:1944604)

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Originally Posted by brielga

that car was dying and limping to the finish, the Binnie car was back running again

Well as bourdais said, it was designed for 24 hours, and not for 24 hours and ten minutes...

**PascaLM** · 24 Jun 2007, 20:24 (Ref:1945710)

Have you noticed that some GT1 has run laps under 3'50" during the race while they they ran over 3'50" during the practices ?
Maybe it means that they don't want to be penalized again for next year with extra weight or smaller restrictors. I don't like to see the potential of these splendid cars limited year after year by the rules.
Am I right ? Your opinion ?

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