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(Apologies if there is a thread for this already, if so delete of merge)
Anyway, seems like the calender is out: Quote:
Weird of them to release it during the PLM race. |
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20 Oct 2012, 18:27 (Ref:3154976) | #2 | |
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It's the final round of the ELMS so maybe not so weird.
Good to see the Silverstone double-header confirmed. A feast of sportscars a couple of months before the big one. |
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Happy to see the Red Bull Ring on the schedule, what a beautiful place. Any news on race distances?
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Is it set in stone or is their scope to expand at all? I love it that ELMS is back, the season just seems a little short!
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20 Oct 2012, 18:46 (Ref:3154980) | #5 | ||
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4.5 hours from what I've heard. I could imagine it being billed as 500 Miles, as that's just about as long as they'll travel in that period of time.
Edit: DSC says 3 hour races. Last edited by Speed-King; 20 Oct 2012 at 18:53. |
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20 Oct 2012, 19:09 (Ref:3154986) | #7 | |
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Three hours... Well, I guess the running costs will be low.
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20 Oct 2012, 19:20 (Ref:3154991) | #8 | ||
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12-13.04 Silverstone GBR with FIA WEC
17-18.05 Imola ITA with FFSA GT Tour 19-20.07 Red Bull Ring AUT with World Series by Renault 13-14.09 Hungaroring HUN with World Series by Renault 27-28.09 Paul Ricard FRA with World Series by Renault What about Official Test Session on Paul Ricard in March? And what's "FFSA GT Tour" ? Three-hour races, two-day weekends, no changes to class structure - a good direction? |
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GT Tour is the French GT3 championship. Has seen better times, though, with grids down to 20-ish cars these days.
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20 Oct 2012, 19:41 (Ref:3155002) | #10 | |
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I'm typing this from memory so apologies if I'm wrong but those dates look vaguely familiar, I think these dates are going to clash with the WEC and ALMS. I'm going to check schedules now.
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Provisional 2013 Le Mans Racing calendar:
16 Mar Sebring 12h ALMS 13 Apr Silverstone 3h ELMS 14 Apr Silverstone 6h WEC 20 Apr Long Beach ALMS 04 May Spa 6h WEC 18 May Imola 3h ELMS 18 May Laguna Seca ALMS 09 Jun Le Mans Test 22-23 Jun Le Mans 24h WEC 06 Jul Lime Rock ALMS 20 Jul Red Bull Ring 3h ELMS 21 Jul Mosport ALMS 04 Aug Autopia AsLMS 11 Aug Road America ALMS 31 Aug Baltimore ALMS 31 Aug Sao Paulo 6h WEC 14 Sep Hungaroring 3h ELMS 21 Sep Fuji 3h AsLMS 21 Sep Austin ALMS 22 Sep Austin 6h WEC 28 Sep Paul Ricard 3h ELMS 05 Oct Virginia ALMS 19 Oct Road Atlanta ALMS 20 Oct Fuji 6h WEC 10 Nov Shanghai 6h WEC 30 Nov Bahrain 6h WEC 08 Dec Sentul 3h AsLMS ?? ??? Zhuhai 3h AsLMS ?? ??? Shanghai 3h AsLMS ?? ??? Ordos 3h AsLMS The only clashes are on 18 May (ELMS+ALMS), 31 Aug (WEC+ALMS), 21 Sep (ALMS+AsLMS) - not bad Last edited by kober; 20 Oct 2012 at 19:50. |
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Forgetting Sebring?
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Hmm, somehow I don't think that calender will bring in masses of GT3 cars (if they want 3 hour races they might just as well stay in Blancpain), and without GT3s growing the GT-field will be challenging, to say the least.
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20 Oct 2012, 20:10 (Ref:3155019) | #15 | |
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Too right, they don't have a chance with British GT and Blancpain ruling the roost.
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BES Calendar: 14th April - Monza 2nd June - Silverstone 30th June - Paul Ricard 27th July - Spa 24 Hours 22nd Sept - Nürburgring 1000 km As you see WEC & ELMS clashes with BES on first round. |
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I don't think BES actually had to turn away cars so far except maybe for Spa.
And then, ELMS doesn't have GT3 field of its own right now, they have to steal those teams from somewhere, and that includes BES. |
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21 Oct 2012, 09:31 (Ref:3155309) | #18 | ||
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Hm, 3 hour races for ELMS will make it less attractive for 3 drivers
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How does 2 x 3h format actually reduce costs? I'm not doubting, but just asking how? You almost think it would be the opposite, since 2 x preparation.
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Where do you see 2 x 3 hours?
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With all the money Google have they could certainly stand to pump a bit more into their translation software. |
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"Le changement intervient dans le format des courses avec des meetings de trois heures et non plus six." Rough translation: The change is in the race format, with 3h races and no more 6h ones. |
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You're right, but even the English version on elms.com is extremely confusing.
http://www.europeanlemansseries.com/....php?news=2214 Quote:
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