LM24 La Sarthe/Arnage Track and Other Changes - Page 20

wewantourdarbyback · 26 Nov 2014, 23:57 (Ref:3479109)

The Bugatti circuit barriers threw me for a second there, but I think it is exatly the same. Through those windows is the banking next to the run from Porsche. With the wheel there, and from what I remember hearing it will still be there? You see a little less than in Eric's video, but no more or less than before i think.

As an aside, you are as usual, brilliant Eric.

deggis · 27 Nov 2014, 16:07 (Ref:3479300)

3D model of the Porsche Center (outside & inside) can be seen in this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPrhIPNs8cg#t=49

Gingers4Justice · 27 Nov 2014, 16:33 (Ref:3479309)

Looks like Maison Blanche camp site really is gone for good.

GT6 · 27 Nov 2014, 17:20 (Ref:3479334)

Looks like the "Experience" includes very small portions of food and a bicycle just what the average porsche buyer wants

whitemr2 · 27 Nov 2014, 18:58 (Ref:3479359)

Quote:

Originally Posted by deggis

3D model of the Porsche Center (outside & inside) can be seen in this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPrhIPNs8cg#t=49

Looks to me like Porsche is taking control over the Le Mans circuit. All they need now is a win. Watch out ACO. The building is huge, shame it is so close to the circuit.

Simmi · 27 Nov 2014, 19:15 (Ref:3479367)

Yeah it is a bit imposing. Very interested to scope it out when it's fully built next year.

I'm assuming it will have heavy VIP usage during race week. A popular move would be to do something similar to what Audi created a bit further up the track - a new vantage point for fans.

But yeah with all that Porsche presence I think Ford need to come back and defend their chicane.

whitemr2 · 27 Nov 2014, 19:36 (Ref:3479369)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simmi

Yeah it is a bit imposing. Very interested to scope it out when it's fully built next year.

I'm assuming it will have heavy VIP usage during race week. A popular move would be to do something similar to what Audi created a bit further up the track - a new vantage point for fans.

But yeah with all that Porsche presence I think Ford need to come back and defend their chicane.

Maybe they can swap names Fordchicane becomes Porschecurves and the other way arround.

If Porsche loves fans it would be a great gesture to not only allow VIPs. We will see. Audi proved to be great for the fans last two years.

Mike E · 4 Dec 2014, 17:15 (Ref:3481898)

Some more updates:

http://www.dailysportscar.com/2014/1...confirmed.html

Coach Ep · 4 Dec 2014, 18:19 (Ref:3481912)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gingers4Justice

So his crash would have been a bit less crashy if there was 50% more asphalt there?

That accident had nothing to do with the grass, and everything to do with the big red thing he hit.

Rocky did not hit Kaufman's Ferrari (although it was awfully close...), he went onto the grass to avoid contact and lost control.

Gingers4Justice · 4 Dec 2014, 18:24 (Ref:3481915)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coach Ep

Rocky did not hit Kaufman's Ferrari (although it was awfully close...), he went onto the grass to avoid contact and lost control.

Just watched it again, you're correct. I've never seen that before!

Post deleted.

Deleted · 4 Dec 2014, 18:36 (Ref:3481920)

So now it's official, the asphalt extensions over at Mulsanne-Indy rundown are not public road improvements/maintenance/whatever but for "safety"... how very surprising. Same can be said for the Indy-Arnage section as it has been bought off by the ACO. For the Arnage-Curves straight there is no explanation but it's obviously the same "reasoning".

The article also confirms that the 600K Porsche Curves upgrades do differ from the Corvette Corner extensions for 2014, unlike originally thought

deggis · 4 Dec 2014, 21:54 (Ref:3481978)

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the shoulder reinforcement works (extension of the tarmac towards the armco) on the run down from Mulsanne Corner to Indianapolis are confirmed as being in response to Mike Rockefeller’s huge accident there in 2012.

Facepalm.

Deleted · 4 Dec 2014, 22:43 (Ref:3481998)

I believe the correct analogy is

... even if it took 4 years to mess it up...

ederss7 · 6 Dec 2014, 20:28 (Ref:3482584)

It would be much better and costless if they didn't allow drivers like Kauffman race. There is no excuse for what he did.

Deleted · 6 Dec 2014, 21:49 (Ref:3482610)

Quote:

Originally Posted by ederss7

It would be much better and costless if they didn't allow drivers like Kauffman race. There is no excuse for what he did.

Yes no excuse in doing just what they instructed you to do at drivers meeting, hold your racing line

That penalty for him was a farce. Just as is doing this shoulder job under 'safety grounds'

ederss7 · 7 Dec 2014, 05:25 (Ref:3482715)

Now i wonder whether they ask the drivers what they think before doing these changes...http://m.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/112098

Deleted · 7 Dec 2014, 15:21 (Ref:3482895)

Drivers are never listened in such matters

AndyN · 9 Dec 2014, 19:26 (Ref:3483503)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike E

Some more updates:

http://www.dailysportscar.com/2014/1...confirmed.html

I can't believe that there hasn't been more comment on the Euro 648,000 to be spent on access and washrooms in the coming years?

Does this mean about Euro 1000 on hiring a few extra thunderboxes, and the rest on exquisitely landscaped walkways, gates, spectator banks etc?

**batmobile** · 10 Dec 2014, 13:39 (Ref:3483723)

A wide view of the Porsche Center https://scontent-a-cdg.xx.fbcdn.net/...97514228_o.jpg.
Thanks to my friend Jean marc https://www.facebook.com/pages/Guimb...186?fref=photo

Simmi · 22 Dec 2014, 19:56 (Ref:3487226)

Safer barriers are being added to the Porsche Curves.

http://www.dailysportscar.com/2014/1...he-curves.html

More grass disappearing and tarmac appearing in certain areas. It looks like they are actually reducing the first gravel trap on entry. It will be interesting to see how the finished article looks.

I'm all for the safer barrier going in. A bit more sceptical about the rest of the changes but they can't just sit there and watch drivers continue to get hurt.

Deleted · 22 Dec 2014, 20:02 (Ref:3487228)

The drivers don't get hurt because of grass and gravel.

The SAFER barriers are great. The ever continuing asphalt extensions not. But I've pretty much given up hope on La Sarthe anyway, it is utterly doomed for sanitation like all big FIA tracks today. Let's just be happy they haven't touched Nordschleife yet, that's the thankfully overlooked gem despite relatively big categories running there today.

ederss7 · 22 Dec 2014, 22:29 (Ref:3487256)

Kristensen really chose the right time to retire. Tarmac in the Porsche curves is stupid.

**PascaLM** · 23 Dec 2014, 17:56 (Ref:3487445)

Good news to see these efforts to keep the pilots unhurt in case of dangerous excursion.

Mike E · 23 Dec 2014, 19:32 (Ref:3487464)

Lots and lots (and lots) of track change info here: http://www.24h-en-piste.com/Histoires/Histoires.php

Thanks to Mat Fernandez for pointing this out.

ATLFalconsFAN · 23 Dec 2014, 20:01 (Ref:3487470)

Okay, this is pretty far out of left field, and obviously way speculative. That said, I was watching what appears to be an early build of Circuit de la Sarthe from the upcoming Project Cars game. I noticed that the ferris wheel is obviously in the wrong place. Maybe the ACO told the designers of the game where the big wheel will be placed once the Porsche Design Center is finished???

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9eBmi_lcpA

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