[LM24 Race] GT2 provisional!?

[Spyderman]

Originally Posted by gwyllion

At the finish Westbrook told RLM that the engine was running on only 5 cilinders and the clutch was gone. They did a good job bringing the car to the finish.

I knew that yesterday. I don't see how that reflects on my post.
I had a very good feeling about BMS and they did not disappoint (a little slower than I thought they would be). They were fantastic, but I personally think Felbermayr deserve their outstanding victory.

Interesting to note that the #77 Felbermayr car spent 38 minutes in the pits in total and made exactly 24 pit-stops. The only other work they did besides refueling and tire change was a change of break pads. That's fantastic in my book.

[Victor_RO]

Originally Posted by Spyderman

Interesting to note that the #77 Felbermayr car spent 38 minutes in the pits in total and made exactly 24 pit-stops. The only other work they did besides refueling and tire change was a change of break pads. That's fantastic in my book.

That's what we generally expect from a properly sorted Porsche race car: absolute clockwork performance. (and obviously, being in GT2, brake pad replacement was pretty much mandatory...)

[zac510]

Originally Posted by gwyllion

At the finish Westbrook told RLM that the engine was running on only 5 cilinders and the clutch was gone. They did a good job bringing the car to the finish.

I suppose if a valve or piston were broke nthen it would fail the stall test with air flowing back through the broken cylinder into the manifold!

Hardly a performance advantage.

[Spyderman]

Originally Posted by Victor_RO

That's what we generally expect from a properly sorted Porsche race car: absolute clockwork performance. (and obviously, being in GT2, brake pad replacement was pretty much mandatory...)

Agreed!...but it's just that we haven't had much of that lately.

[cmk]

Originally Posted by zac510

I suppose if a valve or piston were broke nthen it would fail the stall test with air flowing back through the broken cylinder into the manifold!

Hardly a performance advantage.

But that car is the only one on the podium not being questioned! I hope the results stand; BMS did an amazing job bringing home a car with 5 cylinders and no clutch on the podium, helped by attrition in that class. Having that be the winning car would, however, not really seem just to me. Rules are rules, but in my mind #77 is a very deserving winner no matter what. Great job by Farnbacher too, to bring the Hankook car home 2nd at Nurburgring and Le Mans. To finish first, first you must finish!

[6157]

Exactly how long does it take to make a determination of action; not a decision just a "hey, here's what's happening"

Or is the ACO waiting for the check to clear?

[cptkablamo]

It is the kinda thing you want to get right the first time. For any other race to change the result or have it challenged is not really a big issue - for Le Mans, it is.

Off topic for a moment Also does anyone know if ACO has released the 'time in pits' PDF yet, can't seem to find it.

[Andy77]

Originally Posted by cptkablamo

It is the kinda thing you want to get right the first time. For any other race to change the result or have it challenged is not really a big issue - for Le Mans, it is.

Off topic for a moment Also does anyone know if ACO has released the 'time in pits' PDF yet, can't seem to find it.

Try http://www.lemans.org/en/courses/24h-actu-en-direct-2010.html

That's not the timing but what happened on the circit

[arakis]

anye news abot this subjet yet, does anyone know when the results have to be published final

[Victor_RO]

I'm guessing that it's all done and dusted, the cars were passed as fit and legal and they've just forgotten to tell us outsiders.

[arakis]

yeah but final results are not posted yet on the le mans site, but you are probably right

[GT-Eins]

Here some Infos by one of the involved teams:
http://www.gt-eins.at/cms/index.php?...=5247&Itemid=1
The ACO just wanted in advance to check the Motors of the 2 best placed GT2. As this turned out not to be completed in time at LM the motors of the 2 cars were sealed and brought back to the related tuners (Weissach & Michelotto) , where they will be checked by ACO-officials.
At least Horst Farnbacher expects no changes of the final results.

[Victor_RO]

Horst Farnbacher? Did someone put Horst Felbermayr and Dominik Farnbacher in a blender?

[NightStalk3r]

Originally Posted by Victor_RO

Horst Farnbacher? Did someone put Horst Felbermayr and Dominik Farnbacher in a blender?

No Horst Farnbacher is owner of Farnbacher Racing and father of Dominic Farnbacher.

Horst is a common name in Germany.

[Danny_GT2]

What is it with Porsche having issues with the rulebook?? I remember last year the felbermayr team being DQ'ed on 1 occasion & in an FIA GT race last year (I think spa 24hrs) a whole rack of 911s being DQ'ed due to engine regs!

[arakis]

last year they "forgot" to ask FIA and the ACO tat they need a waiver for their engine since by the rulebook it kept blowint up, so they were forced to introduce stronge cylinder liners, withc they forgot ot mention to the organisers and also forgot that they were ilegal.

but the issue was resolved peacifully, and this year the engine is fully legal to my knowlige, since the homologated car was also fitted with the stronger liners!

[NightStalk3r]

From what i gather there is nothing illegal done so far, it's just something the ACO do now and again is to strip down an Engine from a manufacturer just to check it is in complete conformity to the regulations, this is how the ACO and FIA discovered the Steel liners in the Porsche engine last year.

[gwyllion]

GT2 classification on hold – top 2 under investigation

[The Badger]

Originally Posted by arakis

last year they "forgot" to ask FIA and the ACO

Like Risi forgot to set the proper ride height , even though they had a second car !!! .....

[6157]

Originally Posted by GT-Eins

Here some Infos by one of the involved teams:
http://www.gt-eins.at/cms/index.php?...=5247&Itemid=1
The ACO just wanted in advance to check the Motors of the 2 best placed GT2. As this turned out not to be completed in time at LM the motors of the 2 cars were sealed and brought back to the related tuners (Weissach & Michelotto) , where they will be checked by ACO-officials.
At least Horst Farnbacher expects no changes of the final results.

It wasn't completed in time at Le Mans? Before the race or after? And now the motors are allowed to leave and go back to the shop and then they'll be inspected?

Before I was just bull****ting but this doesn't sound shady at all.

[tux1234]

To be fair they will be sealed at the track then the seals will be opened infront of the aco officials at the respective engine builders, So its not possible to tamper with the engine whilst the aco are not looking after it so to speak.

[arakis]

Ok I have a question if they find some irregularities with the porsche or ferrari car, will all Porscches/Ferraris be excluded, like porsche was at spa

[Aysedasi]

I very much doubt it. I also very much doubt that any irregularity will be found.

[GTRMagic]

The drivers should have downshifted too early just as they crossed the line and made the engines explode... cant tear something down if its suffered from external combustion

[Victor_RO]

It's not exactly external combustion though, is it? More like an internal-combustion pressure bomb.