Britcar Brands Hatch 22nd nov Night Race

james tucker · 8 Nov 2003, 14:22 (Ref:776915)

GARAGES
Britcar 22ND nov
brands hatch BRSCC/EERC
Class 1 up to 5500cc garage

2 Chris.Beighton/John.Finneymore 0 MARCOS GTN 1 4200 5
19 Steve.Hirst/ 0 AUDI BTCC 1 2000T 5
27 Andrew.Davies/Martin.Parson 0 MARCOS GTN 1 4500 Topcat Racing 6
31 Nick.James/Rod.Carman 0 PORSCHE CUP 1 3200 7
96 Warren.Gilbert 0 TVRTUSCAN 1 4200 Topcat Racing 6

Class 2 up to 3600cc
3 Peter.Seldon/Alex.Elliott 0 BMW E36 M3 2 3000 Serverware Plc 11
5 Andrew.Allen/D.Kempton 0 BMW E36 M3 2 3000 Life Sports 10
18 John.Cowgill/Calum.Lockie 0 BMW E36 M3 2 3000 GTS.Msp 7
26 TBA/Bill.Sollis 0 SUPER MINI 2 3200 Cadbury 12
46 Peter.Knee/Michael Symonds 0 BMW E36 M3 2 3200 Steel Msp 13
47 Mark.Thomas/Steve.Padmore 0 BMW E36 M3 3 3200 Steel.Msp 13
52 Richard.Miens/Simon.Harrison 0 BMW E46 2 3200 Mardi Gras 8
59 Peter.Morss/Paul.Michell 0 NISSAN SKYLINE 2 2600T Quartz Msp. 14
62 Andrew.Howard 0 BMW M3 E36 2 3000 Cadbury 12
86 Witt Gamski 0 FERRARI 355 2 3500 Damax 14
95 Tim.Christmas/Nigel.Greensall 0 Z3M BELCAR 2 3000 8
Class 3 up to 2800cc
11 Rick.Kremmer/ R FOCUS GRP N+ 3 2000 R
16 Mark.Lemmer/Luke.Hines 0 HONDA CIVIC.R 3 2000 Barwell Msp 15
21 Tom.Gannon/William.Gannon 0 HONDA INT.R 3 2300 TG.Msp 15
33 Alex.Frick/Terry.Flatt 0 VW BEETLE RS 3 2800 16
34 Ken.Lark/ 0 GOLF GRP N+ 3 1800T 17
36 John.George/Ed.Pead 0 HONDA INT.R 3 1800 Mardi Gras 9
40 N.Stephens/Mark Smith 0 BMW E30 M3 3 2300 16
49 Michael.&.Sean.Mcinerney 0 HONDA INT.R 3 2000 Mardi Gras 9
66 Mark.Smith 0 VW BORA 3 2300 Wish upon a Star 20
70 Dave.Turner/Lloydd.Allard 0 VW DEISEL 3 1900T ATMR 21
Class 4 up to 2000cc
4 Alen.Wiltshire/ David.Abbott 0 FIESTA 1800 4 1800 Daniels.Msp 18
6 Michael.Hartley/Roger.Mahoney 0 FIESTA 1800 4 1800 Daniels.Msp 18
34 John.Hammersley/Andrew.Dunlop 0 MG ZR I60 4 1800 MGSport&Racing 22
41 Andrew.Elliott 0 CLIO 16V 4 1800 17
69 John.Frankel/Andrew.Frankel 0 CLIO 16V 4 2000 Think. Automotive 19
85 Bernie.Bowden/Andy.Bowden/ 0 CAVALIER GRP N+ 4 2000 Novateh Msp 21
77 David.Smith R Alfa Romeo 156 TS 4 2000 ?
95 Andy.Roby/ 0 FOCUS GRP N 4 2000 20
99 Martin.Rogers/Matt.Potter 0 CLIO 16V 4 2000 Think. Automotive 19

martinparsons · 9 Nov 2003, 10:42 (Ref:777615)

James

Would it be possible to ask Brands Hatch to place the reflective light posts on the corners the same as at Donington, these are a great help, especially in the very dark spots like Druids.

Thanks

Martin.

**Snapper Baz** · 9 Nov 2003, 17:58 (Ref:778036)

Can't believe it-Iv'e now got to go and do an awards Dinner/Dance bash at Hinkley that night for the Mighty Mini's....James can you re-schedule the race for the Sunday!!

Williamp · 9 Nov 2003, 18:04 (Ref:778041)

James, do you have the actula times? Is it late afternoon, or actually at night??

Kind regards,
Will

Steve Wood · 9 Nov 2003, 21:52 (Ref:778217)

WilliamP, here's the theory :-

Racing starts at 13.20, and there are firstly 5 races, all of a timed duration, not numbers of laps, and these 5 races are 15, 40, 15,15 and 15 minutes each. Then comes 45 minutes of Britcar qualifying, followed immediately by the Britcar race, which must end by the alleged 18.30 curfew.

You could call 5pm late afternoon in June, but in November it is most definitely night !

I would suggest that Britcar getting the deal it deserves is dependant upon nobody disturbing the tyre wall earlier in the afternoon.

ss_collins · 9 Nov 2003, 22:24 (Ref:778253)

Well I'll either be there or in sussex rallying...

redshoes · 9 Nov 2003, 23:07 (Ref:778282)

Steve, what are the other 5 races?

james tucker · 10 Nov 2003, 08:35 (Ref:778539)

BRSCC WINTER WEEKENDBRANDS HATCH22nd & 23rd NOVEMBER 2003

Saturday 22nd Sign On Scrutineering Session Event StartProvisional Period
Untimed Practice Session A – Britsports 07.30 – 08.30 07.45 – 08.15 1 Untimed 09.00 30 Mins
Untimed Practice Session B – Minis - OP 08.00 – 08.30 08.15 – 08.45 2 Untimed 30 Mins
Untimed Practice Session C – VSR/SS – OP 08.30 – 09.00 08.45 – 09.15 4 Untimed 30 Mins
BRDC Winter Mini Championship 09.00 – 09.30 09.15 – 09.45 5 Qualifying 15 Mins
Britsports 09.00 – 10.00 09.15 – 10.15 6 Qualifying 20 Mins
VSR & S/S 09.30 – 10.00 09.45 – 10.15 7 Qualifying 15 Mins
Open Caterhams 10.00 – 10.30 10.15 – 10.45 8 Qualifying 15 Mins
Untimed Practice D - Britcar 10.00 – 11.00 10.15 – 11.15 9 Untimed 30 Mins
B R E A K
VSR & S/S 10 Race 1 13.20 15 Mins
Britsports 11 Race 2 40 Mins
BRDC Winter Mini Championship 12 Race 3 15 Mins
Open Caterhams 13 Race 4 15 Mins
VSR & S/S 14 Race 5 15 Mins
BritcarNight Qualifying 15 Qualifying 45 Mins
Britcar 16 Race 6 100 Mins

Steve Wood · 10 Nov 2003, 13:13 (Ref:778785)

Has there ever been racing in the dark at Brands before ?

Williamp · 10 Nov 2003, 13:35 (Ref:778815)

Thanks everyone. I was at the last Britcar race a few weeks ago and they stopped it as it was getting dark. It was lovely and atmospheric, though. I really enjoyed watching the driver changes at dusk.

Rod Birley · 12 Nov 2003, 20:45 (Ref:781394)

Actually practice starts at 9 a.m. on Saturday and 10 a.m. on Sunday as per normal. It looks like being a good event. Officially it will be the first race in darkness at Brands, although a few have gone OTL in the past. I particularly remember one on the long circuit where various marshals cars were positioned with their headlights on to illuminate bits of track and marshals posts, great fun.

james tucker · 12 Nov 2003, 22:07 (Ref:781457)

Rod, time you came out to play...
you and Frank would set the track alight with your skills..
when are you coming..I am sure we at Britcar and the Marshals would like to see you out there..the 22nd ????
sportingly
james

james tucker · 13 Nov 2003, 15:45 (Ref:782138)

Hi James ,

We didn't get to meet on Saturday but I shared the TVR with Warren Gilbert and I just wanted to say what a great event it was. I had no prior first hand experience of the championship but having done most things from karting to the SR2 class of the FIA sportscar champonship, Iwanted to mention , for what it's worth how impressed I was with the whole thing!...especially the high standard of driving - moving over to be passed etc. it was excellent.
Anyway, hope to be able to do some more,

Regards

Richard Fores

james tucker · 13 Nov 2003, 17:45 (Ref:782247)

fatcat
Anorak

Location: Tun Wells Posted - 6 November 2003 16:02
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Article in this week's Autosport comments that JCC may be no more unless they combine with EERC (who they ?) and hence the Centurian, etc may not happen next year. Just when I was idly speculating that the Centurian might be fun for next season...anyone know any more ?
Austin
Angel

Location: Posted - 6 November 2003 16:57
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The championship will be saved !

We will let you know asap how to Register for the 2004 season.
Giles Wardle
Windbag

Location: Within sight & sound of Donington Posted - 6 November 2003 17:00
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EERC? - European Endurance Racing Champiosnhip (just a guess)

Did a JCC £100k at Oulton this year, most appallingly managed race day I have ever been too, an absolute shambles. Timing people forgot to bring.....the timing gear. Almost no information given out by orgainsers and even marshalls didn't know what was going on.

Shame, otherwise I really enjoyed the day and was thinking of doing the series with a friend for 2004 in addition to some Grads/Supergrads races.

Anybdoy know of any other 2 driver enduro race champioships for 7s.
Austin
Angel

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No
Nifty
Yawn.....

Location: Watching my back!!! Posted - 6 November 2003 18:19
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Cor, that's a hell of a prize £100k...should be fun watching Austin try to wrestle that one from the BMS boys

Keep off the straight and narrow
R Phillips
I ought to get out more

Location: Epping Posted - 6 November 2003 18:32
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I heard talk of a £3000 registration fee
(And there's no prize money)

T.F@O.F.
A7 RDP
Pics here
Austin
Angel

Location: Posted - 7 November 2003 7:13
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3k had been discussed but with discounted entry fees !

Watch this space.

Nifty thoose boys can drive but they can't fight !
Nifty
Yawn.....

Location: Watching my back!!! Posted - 7 November 2003 7:56
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Keep off the straight and narrow
Graeme Smith
I ought to get out more

Location: East Cheshire Posted - 7 November 2003 8:30
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I may be wrong but the EERC races don't allow "open wheeled" sportscars (i.e. Sevens), so how are Centurians going to be merged (as suggested by Autosport)?
Giles Wardle
Windbag

Location: Within sight & sound of Donington Posted - 7 November 2003 9:07
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£oops.
Dipstick
Acolyte

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from the EERC website:

Minimum weights:-
over 1.800 cc & up to 2.000 cc - 1050 kg
over 2.000 cc & up to 2.500 cc - 1100 kg
over 2.500 cc & up to 2.800 cc - 1200 kg
over 2.800 cc & up to 3.700 cc - 1250 kg
over 3.700 cc & up to 5.500 cc - 1350 kg
fatcat
Anorak

Location: Tun Wells Posted - 13 November 2003 13:27
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This weeks Autosport reports that EERC & JCC have merged with EERC handling promotion and JCC running the races. The Centurian has been saved and "will now be open only to Caterham Sevens. Radicals and Westfields have been invited to run in Britsports,".

Any more info greatfully received, e.g. dates, venues, will there be a class for large people wedged into SV's with R500 engines ?

No. 27 at the back of the grid, Reg R500 SVR
Dave Jackson
Windbag

Location: C(sh)ity of Newport Posted - 13 November 2003 13:57
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Can someone please point me in the direction for full details , registration , mailing lists etc etc etc

ta

Lotus 7 Club Speed Champion 2003
South Wales Area Organiser
C7 TOP
Giles Wardle
Windbag

Location: Within sight & sound of Donington Posted - 13 November 2003 14:56
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Dave, try here
Richard Ince
I ought to get out more

Location: Mendlesham, nr Stowmarket, Suffolk Posted - 13 November 2003 15:39
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There are other options for next year which are being discussed at the weekend.
Graeme Smith
I ought to get out more

Location: East Cheshire Posted - 13 November 2003 16:20
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The Centurian has been saved and "will now be open only to Caterham Sevens. Radicals and Westfields have been invited to run in Britsports,".

Should that actually mean Radicals and Westie XTRs in Britsports ('cos they've covered wheels) and Seven-type cars (including standard Westie's, etc)?

Rod Birley · 13 Nov 2003, 22:49 (Ref:782581)

I would love to do the 22nd, and have made enquiries about sharing a car but to no avail. Any suggestions James.

R59 · 14 Nov 2003, 20:31 (Ref:783602)

James,

How about upping the Class 1 limit to 6000cc.

I'm sure a few Class A Formula Saloons runners would love to come out to play (I would, next year, and would be willing to carry ballast if need be.)

Regards

Rob.

james tucker · 24 Nov 2003, 08:19 (Ref:792721)

After a 'long and winding road', Britain has night racing Back.
I wish to thank all the Marchalls/ Scutineers/ and the Club Officials for their hard work (sometimes in dreadful conditions,) and for their dedication to the sport....we at the EERC will continue to try to bring exciting theatre to your circuits with a variety of events. thank you all for a great second year.
sportingly
John.Veness & James.Tucker

R59 · 24 Nov 2003, 21:30 (Ref:793310)

No,

Thank YOU James for organising it, and thus making it happen.

Now how about extending class 1 to 6000cc?

Rob.

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