São Bernardo Street Circuit - SP - Brazil

althoffj · 24 May 2006, 12:49 (Ref:1617865)

I´m Brazilian .

I made a circuit in my city.

Sorry by poor english...

nickyf1 · 24 May 2006, 15:39 (Ref:1617973)

I like that alot! welcome athoffj! your track is very fast and flowing, well done.

V8_TURBO · 24 May 2006, 16:07 (Ref:1618000)

doesn't seem too long though does it? i like the track though, good

jab · 24 May 2006, 16:22 (Ref:1618017)

Nice one - reminds me of the new Durban circuit

althoffj · 24 May 2006, 16:47 (Ref:1618033)

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Originally Posted by nickyf1

I like that alot! welcome athoffj! your track is very fast and flowing, well done.

thanks!

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Originally Posted by V8_TURBO

doesn't seem too long though does it? i like the track though, good

Thanks! 2000 meters, or 1.243 miles

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Originally Posted by jab

Nice one - reminds me of the new Durban circuit

its true! but Durban has too much chicanes.... and its bad... I hate chicanes.......

V8_TURBO · 24 May 2006, 17:03 (Ref:1618050)

they can be useful.......and deadly

nickyf1 · 24 May 2006, 17:10 (Ref:1618055)

Arent chicanes used to make a fast trak safer and not too fast?

V8_TURBO · 24 May 2006, 17:13 (Ref:1618058)

yeah but people have died, going too fast on them.

althoffj · 24 May 2006, 17:43 (Ref:1618083)

Following this logic, we need to place chicanes in Indyanápolis, Talladega, Daytona... To be race driver, it is necessary courage! Fear is failure!

the_royksopp · 24 May 2006, 20:06 (Ref:1618183)

Muy bien, senhor.

Alwaysfirst · 24 May 2006, 21:05 (Ref:1618221)

That's a really impressive track! I can see champcars racing there really well-length of the track isn't really a big issue for them! In my home city I have made a track but coz of the lack of suitable roads for an exciting circuit it is about 6.5 miles long with a 1.9 mile straight! I may post it sometime!

Again though-great track!

Rockmunky · 24 May 2006, 21:09 (Ref:1618226)

Ooh nice track, flows well. Nice one, keep it up!
Alwaysfirst, please post that, should be a laugh if anything else

cosmicpanda · 25 May 2006, 06:34 (Ref:1618387)

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Originally Posted by V8_TURBO

yeah but people have died, going too fast on them.

people have also died on straight bits of track, and also on corners. We should therefore eliminate those as well.

shambles · 25 May 2006, 11:04 (Ref:1618549)

Nice track 'althoffj' and welcome to the My Tracks forum! I think the speed down to the first hairpin would be dangerously exciting, and it would see some pretty big crashes. I expect you'd have to make some kind of big run off area up there, is there any space for that at all?

althoffj · 25 May 2006, 12:42 (Ref:1618619)

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Originally Posted by martin-1

Nice track 'althoffj' and welcome to the My Tracks forum! I think the speed down to the first hairpin would be dangerously exciting, and it would see some pretty big crashes. I expect you'd have to make some kind of big run off area up there, is there any space for that at all?

If I understood its question, yes, a great space with asphalt exists that can be used as escape area. It is the continuation of the avenue.

Fan of Bruno Senna for that I see. In Brazil, we are anxious for its success.

shambles · 25 May 2006, 14:19 (Ref:1618693)

Thankyou, you made perfect sense

I love Bruno, I am anxious too! I am a big Ayrton fan, he is my hero!

Purist · 25 May 2006, 14:25 (Ref:1618699)

I like the layout, although that second hairpin does look a bit out of place.

Cosmicpanda, given the physics of the situation, chicanes seem to lead to more accidents at that given place than normally occurred on the pre-existing straight, corner, etc. For instance, I'm not sure there's been a "clean' first lap of the Italian Grand Prix at Monza since 1971 (The chicanes were installed for the 1972 season.). One big thing to remember is that fatalities in past decades usually had a lot more to do with the barriers and car construction than the track configuration. Simply put, it's a moot point to attempt to protect the driver at 150+mph when a hard impact at just 80-100-mph will likely have severe consequences. Also, chicanes with those old cars, especially those with drum brakes, would have been a VERY BAD IDEA.

althoffj · 25 May 2006, 16:33 (Ref:1618774)

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Originally Posted by martin-1

Thankyou, you made perfect sense

I love Bruno, I am anxious too! I am a big Ayrton fan, he is my hero!

Our Hero!!!

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Originally Posted by Purist

I like the layout, although that second hairpin does look a bit out of place.

Cosmicpanda, given the physics of the situation, chicanes seem to lead to more accidents at that given place than normally occurred on the pre-existing straight, corner, etc. For instance, I'm not sure there's been a "clean' first lap of the Italian Grand Prix at Monza since 1971 (The chicanes were installed for the 1972 season.). One big thing to remember is that fatalities in past decades usually had a lot more to do with the barriers and car construction than the track configuration. Simply put, it's a moot point to attempt to protect the driver at 150+mph when a hard impact at just 80-100-mph will likely have severe consequences. Also, chicanes with those old cars, especially those with drum brakes, would have been a VERY BAD IDEA.

Everything this is truth. Death to chicanes and the long life to the tracks of high speed!

V8_TURBO · 25 May 2006, 17:50 (Ref:1618819)

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Originally Posted by cosmicpanda

people have also died on straight bits of track, and also on corners. We should therefore eliminate those as well.

if you did that, there would be no tracks to race on at all! how can you think like that?

althoffj · 25 May 2006, 19:14 (Ref:1618882)

race = speed
chicane = brake...

death to the chicanes!

I write a weekly column in a website in Brazil, and this: http://www.bestlap.com.br/le_noticia...&modalidade=F1 I criticize the chicanes vehemently. (in portuguese...)

nickyf1 · 25 May 2006, 19:39 (Ref:1618905)

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Originally Posted by martin-1

Thankyou, you made perfect sense

I love Bruno, I am anxious too! I am a big Ayrton fan, he is my hero!

today was the first time I seen Ayrtons crash and I cannot get it out of my head, it was horrible.

althoffj · 25 May 2006, 20:16 (Ref:1618958)

All the Brazilians waited the first victory of Ayrton with the Williams. It was chocking. Brazil stopped. The hero was buried with would honor of head of State. I, particularly, was 15 days without going to the school, much badly. I felt as to lose somebody of the family.

shambles · 25 May 2006, 21:43 (Ref:1619042)

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Originally Posted by nickyf1

today was the first time I seen Ayrtons crash and I cannot get it out of my head, it was horrible.

If you wanna talk to me about it mate, please feel free to PM me

I agree althoffj, the affects of his death live with me to this day.

We should stop talking about it in here though, the people in charge would not like it.

V8_TURBO · 26 May 2006, 09:06 (Ref:1619313)

I've only seen a couple of pictures from the crash, but not a video of it.

nicky, could you post us a link or something?

nickyf1 · 26 May 2006, 10:42 (Ref:1619369)

No I dont even want to post it, infact I shouldnt post it attal it was a terrible moment in motorsport history. So lets leave it at that then okay.

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