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Old 10 Aug 2021, 18:40 (Ref:4066204)   #501
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So now the Caddy program won't be announced at Le Mans? Guys, everyone knows you're doing it.

https://sportscar365.com/lemans/wec/...delayed-again/
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Old 10 Aug 2021, 18:52 (Ref:4066210)   #502
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Do GM honestly believe ACO will keep GTE Pro class in the WEC just so that Corvette Racing could participate in two races (at best), possibly racing on their own?

Also, if SC356 is to be believed, GM is planning to continue running the grandfathered GTLM car in IMSA way beyond 2022 and avoid developing a true GT3 version at all costs. Otherwise why would they be worried about GT3 coming in 2023 or 2024?
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Do GM honestly believe ACO will keep GTE Pro class in the WEC just so that Corvette Racing could participate in two races (at best), possibly racing on their own?

Also, if SC356 is to be believed, GM is planning to continue running the grandfathered GTLM car in IMSA way beyond 2022 and avoid developing a true GT3 version at all costs. Otherwise why would they be worried about GT3 coming in 2023 or 2024?
It seems more like Dagys stirring things again than anything else. I wouldn't be surprised if they lost the time they wanted and sole focus LMDh with Alpine making an announcement as well. GM has played with the ACO enough to know the leverage is limited when they only run Spa and LM24.
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Hmmm, a close working relationship between Proton and Multimatic. Porsche LMDh on Christian Ried's radar?

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Hmmm, a close working relationship between Proton and Multimatic. Porsche LMDh on Christian Ried's radar?

https://sportscar365.com/lemans/wec/...roton-porsche/
Could definitely see a scenario a few years down the line where we have private Proton Competition LMDhs. Anything seems possible right now.
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The man does collect Porsche racers and I think Porsche's goal is factory and privateer teams.
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Imagine in 10 years time someone like Koenig making LMDh-based road cars out of privateer racers?

Totally implausible, I know. Times have changed.
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Could definitely see a scenario a few years down the line where we have private Proton Competition LMDhs. Anything seems possible right now.
Just to bring this full circle, they are interested but need more info before jumping in:

http://www.dailysportscar.com/2021/0...ommitment.html
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at first me too thought about an alpine-nissan shared effort like porsche-audi, but:
"an evaluation process is reportedly underway with an LMP2 chassis acquired from a team."
this doesn't make any sense if related to nissan... alpine/signatech is already deeply tied with oreca, why nissan should buy a lmp2 chassis from another team? considering also there are already nissan powered ligier lmp2 parked somewhere....
about hyundai, it's a 10 years long rumor, and I think they are much more focusing on nothing else but new WRC specs.
What about techeetah? Afterall they just need to be branded by a manufacturer to be able to field their lmdh (and the manufacturer doesn't even need to be the engine supplier, similiar to what happen in IMSA where multimatic + AER = mazda).
Nissan/Alpine will likely need to find another chassis supplier because ORECA may become involved in the Ferrari programme in some way.
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Nissan/Alpine will likely need to find another chassis supplier because ORECA may become involved in the Ferrari programme in some way.
according to Coletta statements of last months, he said that ferrari will keep ok work with michelotto and AF corse for the LMH program, without giving any detail tho.
About oreca, it was a 1st april rumor about oreca replacing michelotto for ferrari GT programs.
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according to Coletta statements of last months, he said that ferrari will keep ok work with michelotto and AF corse for the LMH program, without giving any detail tho.
About oreca, it was a 1st april rumor about oreca replacing michelotto for ferrari GT programs.
I wasn't aware of any hoax rumours, my post is related something that came up quite by accident much more recently!
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why nissan should buy a lmp2 chassis from another team? considering also there are already nissan powered ligier lmp2 parked somewhere.....
Yeah, Ed Brown's garage somewhere. It wasn't ever a Nissan product in any way, hell they didn't even pay for engines for them. It was Ed's project and Patron advertising
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Not sure who the Asian manufacturer would be since Honda and Toyota are already involved, and Mazda just quit. Hyundai have been doing well in touring cars recently so that is a possibility. Can't imagine it is Nissan, but maybe?
Running back to this post after DSC posted an updated of the current state of LMH and LMDh:

http://www.dailysportscar.com/2021/0...-whos-out.html

Turns out it was Nissan that acquired a P2 chassis!

Lots of other good news bits in this piece too. Some of them are known programs but others are less certain.
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2024 is going to be biblical man!

I don't see how LMH manufacturers won't start bringing in third cars too to combat the hoards of VAG LMDhs. Going to be many bullets in many guns for the big races like Le Mans.

They absolutely should push back the hydrogen regs intro by a year or two IMO.
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Cadillac confirms IMSA and WEC. Two days after Le Mans.

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Weird timing but we got there in the end!
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Any more news/rumours on Hyundai? We know they've committed to the new 2022 WRC regs......one of only 3 makes. Surely the WEC is were all the manufacturers are - and the place to be.
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I'm fairly positive they did not want to wait and when Alpine announced they were going to (not) announce I guess, Cadillac had no choice but to wait. It really feels like they were ready and wanted to press at the event but knew Alpine would get all the French press.

More interesting is ECR being left out, wonder what/who it will be.
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I didn’t realise Cadillac ran a LMP in 2002 and I would only associate them with GT at best. But hey shows what I know about them
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Is a full WEC programme a bit of an assumption at this stage? Can't really find any quotes beyond them wanting to do Le Mans.
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More interesting is ECR being left out, wonder what/who it will be.
Here's hoping for Katech 7-litre
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Is a full WEC programme a bit of an assumption at this stage? Can't really find any quotes beyond them wanting to do Le Mans.
In some earlier stories they had mentioned full duel programs, just like Ganassi did with the Ford GT.
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Is a full WEC programme a bit of an assumption at this stage? Can't really find any quotes beyond them wanting to do Le Mans.
MP's article on the announcement says they confirmed entry in both IMSA and WEC with AXR and Ganassi to run IMSA and Ganassi to run a WEC program. As joeb said I would expect a Ganassi program like they did with Ford but possibly their IMSA car not getting to LM in favor of AXR.

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Sadly I think we're due a smaller capacity turbo in keeping with their street cars. Marketing tells "regular folks" many things we know aren't true but sells well so it's "just like the ATS/CTS-V engines" guys, honest
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MP's article on the announcement says they confirmed entry in both IMSA and WEC with AXR and Ganassi to run IMSA and Ganassi to run a WEC program. As joeb said I would expect a Ganassi program like they did with Ford but possibly their IMSA car not getting to LM in favor of AXR.

Or maybe 3 entries requests will be filed, who knows at this stage, it's really early days when it comes to the 2023 entry list. Guessing 62 entries again, when is the new pit building planned to be built? And what was WEC's self-imposed entry limit again?
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I meant 3 would be filed, previous statements about driver scouting made it sound like Ganassi was going for 3 cars, and AXR 1. But yes, still early enough that all hell could break loose and numbers change but I'm guessing some LMDh and maybe extra LMH cars are gonna be left out or have to be full season WEC runners to get in the 62.
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I think they ran one in the 2000 race. I have a vague memory of it catching fire after a few laps.
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