wow thats some fine!!!

Lord X · 23 Dec 2005, 17:37 (Ref:1489387)

Wow. anyone else seen this story on the MSA site?
http://www.msauk.org/site/wbs/news/V...262&category=0

Welsh Karter · 24 Dec 2005, 14:26 (Ref:1489676)

And quite right too, lets hope Mr Cristo pays up promptly and allows his son to continue his career without any further interference

Ali Rushforth · 24 Dec 2005, 20:05 (Ref:1489789)

If they needed an advantage, £33K would have got him a lot of driving tuition!!!!!

shelsleyF2 · 24 Dec 2005, 21:41 (Ref:1489816)

I hope Adam didnt know about this!. £33,000 may have bought a lot of tuition but I think they were looking for the unfair advantage. The shame is all Adams previous results are now tainted... was it a good drive or ???

#15 tkm 4/ · 24 Dec 2005, 22:52 (Ref:1489839)

1st point: His dad is a multi millionaire.
2nd point: He once sold a engione for 25k and carbs for 5k each.

So was a fine really needed? A ban would of made a lot more sense. 33k isnt alot to a millionaire. Why didnt they ban him, is my question

Alex Hodgkinson · 25 Dec 2005, 17:44 (Ref:1489975)

hmm kind of pointless fine. I agree with you 4/, a ban would be better.

mark_l · 25 Dec 2005, 19:36 (Ref:1489991)

Any future success by Adam is going to be tainted with accusations of tampering, mud sticks.

Series Scrutineers are going to face a barrage of protests if Adam does even remotely well in the future.

REALIST · 26 Dec 2005, 16:33 (Ref:1490212)

Quote:

Originally Posted by shelsleyF2

I hope Adam didnt know about this!. £33,000 may have bought a lot of tuition but I think they were looking for the unfair advantage. The shame is all Adams previous results are now tainted... was it a good drive or ???

Tainted? They should be seriously questioned. The implication is of serious, complex cheating over a period of time, No accident, oversight or anything likely to be spontaneous or one off.

And as for AC not knowing, IMO any reasonable racer would know if his equipment was bent or not. Unless one were ALWAYS running bent engines!

924nut · 26 Dec 2005, 16:44 (Ref:1490216)

I believe that the matter isnt over yet as there are still to be further reviews which could include bans and they are looking into the 4 people that they supplied engines to,

Totally agree about the fine - it doesnt mean anything to a millionaire who just thinks he can buy his son success.

speedy king · 29 Dec 2005, 20:38 (Ref:1491601)

Finally

Flatspot · 1 Jan 2006, 19:17 (Ref:1492955)

Just curious as to exactly what it was they were doing to these Rotax engines. Anything we should be looking for on this side of the pond?

speedy king · 1 Jan 2006, 19:35 (Ref:1492963)

Crank pin apparently.

Apparently, rumour i've heard

#15 tkm 4/ · 1 Jan 2006, 23:42 (Ref:1493079)

yeah, it let the engine rev higher (and past the limiter)

Alex Hodgkinson · 2 Jan 2006, 14:18 (Ref:1493477)

I thought that they were taking out the balancer shafts, because they have quite an impact on an engine's output..

speedy king · 2 Jan 2006, 15:12 (Ref:1493504)

I'd even heard they had been messing around with the coil but that was just from one person. Alot seems to be mentioned about the crank pin however so assumed that was what they had done..

Flatspot · 2 Jan 2006, 17:40 (Ref:1493553)

What some will do to win........................................

Rushy · 2 Jan 2006, 18:28 (Ref:1493573)

I dont know why they do it because some of them can win without cheating EG Christdulou won one race after they took the engine off of him

REALIST · 2 Jan 2006, 18:31 (Ref:1493576)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rushy

I dont know why they do it because some of them can win without cheating EG Christdulou won one race after they took the engine off of him

And was that engine checked?

Rushy · 2 Jan 2006, 18:34 (Ref:1493580)

I think he got one off of JAG (I THINK!!)

Davie-c · 5 Jan 2006, 00:00 (Ref:1495162)

See that they have made it into Motorsport News this week.There is even a picture of the part that was dodgie.

speedy king · 5 Jan 2006, 14:25 (Ref:1495556)

All publicity is good publicity...???

I'd think not in this case...

ukkartace · 8 Jan 2006, 14:54 (Ref:1497284)

i think its bloody shameful of the MSA just to fine him. I mean like you guys previously mentioned 33,000 is nothing to him. A ban at least in my opinion should have been given afterall lets not forget this is not the first time he has been court for it.
At any of the events I

ukkartace · 8 Jan 2006, 14:59 (Ref:1497287)

(CONTINUED)....went to it was obvious that his equipment was bent there was absoluelty know way he could have been that far out in front with the way 1. he drives 2. the mistakes he made.
In my opinion he has taken out all the credabilty out of Rotax classes, hence why alot of people now look to other classes as unless the spend 20,000 on a good engine and carb there is no hope of winning.
I may sound a little bit strong but i just think that these types of things are what destroy karting and wreck the sport. All that happens is he gets caught cheating then pays a fine and continues doing it in another grey area of the rules.

speedy king · 8 Jan 2006, 15:05 (Ref:1497292)

Wonder if he'll lose his works Tony Kart drive after all this..?

Probably wont even lose that

**ghinzani** · 8 Jan 2006, 16:05 (Ref:1497330)

Still they let him off of £6050 for admitting guilt. Bet he's pleased about that!

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