The future of Corvette

[Satorian]

Originally Posted by Speed-King

Wasps, salamanders, iirc there are some butterflies that mimik the black and yellow of wasps to intimidate birds and other predators.

Not exactly that dangerous to us, are they?


By the way, here's a 2-minute-mockup of my point:

[FIRE]

Originally Posted by David

I don't KNOW why they were yellow but I always assumed it was a Marketing push for the Millennium since it was introduced at Daytona 2000:



The change to Velocity Yellow is because the production color was changed, I can only guess further about the tint coats maybe having something to do with TV visibility.....

This is my favorite Corvette livery.

[AU N EGL]

Originally Posted by Satorian

On those occasions I really care about the car, not the color. What goes through my mind then usually are power, torque, weight and acceleration figures with childlike wonder and glee. If the driver comes too close and violates traffic law I occasionally wonder about what kind of ******* is at the wheel there, but I've never considered a car intimidating.

OK I guess you dont know about Richard Petty or Dale Earnhart bump dratfing.

Yellow a color of excitement? I've never seen a woman turn yellow in my presence.

Gess your not as exciting as you think

Just kidding

I get it. Black bears, dogs, panthers and birds are self-indulgent then.
There are evolutionary reasons for our visual semiotics and perceptual characteristics. An animal in black is hard to see, difficult to grasp visually ahead of a confrontation, and can more easily hide itself or its weapons, which is why it gets a bonus on our danger assessment scale. An animal in red is usually excited, with lots of blood flowing, which means either sex or murder. Both can be quite close and dangerous in the animal kingdom and get the adrenaline flowing.

Nature is differnt

I like yellow. It's just neither intimidating nor exciting. As for loving or hating something, just look at my sig.

DO you have a pulse? just kidding again.

I've been up close to yellow Porsches, Ferraris and Corvettes, and NO, the yellow color has nothing to do with their appeal to me. In fact, the color still seemed at odds with how I felt about the car in general.

There you just said it. the yellow car is at adds with how you feel. That is intimidation. It worked

[Speed-King]

Originally Posted by AU N EGL

There you just said it. the yellow car is at adds with how you feel. That is intimidation. It worked

Not really, I am for example terribly at odds with tomatoes, but I wouldn't be intimitad by basket of them. It's gross(to me*), but not intimitating.

*and just for the record: I like them in processed form.

[JAG]

Originally Posted by HORNDAWG

It would be nice to see the GT-2 C6.Rs in a different livery than the monotone velocity yellow.

But, I think you might be intimidated with one of the yellow Vettes all over your rear view!



L.P.

Isn't red the traditional Corvette (roadcar) colour?

What about those 60's GT cars in a light blue metallic colour, looked very cool.

[Satorian]

Originally Posted by AU N EGL

OK I guess you dont know about Richard Petty or Dale Earnhart bump dratfing.

And would you think "Gosh, a yellow car is bump drafting me!" or "Damn, [Richard Petty | Dale Earnhardt] are bump drafting me!"? In this case, the drivers are intimidating, not the color of their cars.

Gess your not as exciting as you think

Just kidding

Ah, so would take it as a compliment if a woman talking to you suddenly turned yellow?

Nature is differnt

How can nature be different when we are a part of nature? Unless you believe in creationism/intelligent design, there's no way to exclude ourselves from nature. The way we perceive, base and class information on colour is firmly rooted in evolutionary experiences, and I think no strong case can be made for yellow. Unless there are things that can be done with a banana, that I didn't of before.

There you just said it. the yellow car is at adds with how you feel. That is intimidation. It worked

Thinking, "Goddamn, that car is cool, but the colour is kinda meh", isn't exactly intimidation. It ranges between confusion, befuddlement and disappointment.


I guess it's no use debating this further, as it seems we won't convince each other, but I certainly prefer the black/red livery and am unable to feel excited by yellow objects based on their color alone. That's pretty much it from me.

[AU N EGL]

Originally Posted by JAG

Isn't red the traditional Corvette (roadcar) colour?

What about those 60's GT cars in a light blue metallic colour, looked very cool.

that is the Book "All Corvettes are Red"

and Satorian,

Thinking, "Goddamn, that car is cool, but the colour is kinda meh", isn't exactly intimidation. It ranges between confusion, befuddlement and disappointment.

That my friend is Intimidation.

If the color did not bother you, you would not have those feelings.

Suit yourself. Red I like, black for a car is kinda boring as I have walked by many black Vipers or Porsche and not even noticed them until my wife said something.

Walked by a Black AM Vantage two weeks ago, and never noticed until someone said something. Thought it was a Jag or Kit car at first

[Speed-King]

Originally Posted by Merriam-Webster Dictionary

Main Entry:in·tim·i·date Pronunciation: \in-ˈti-mə-ˌdāt\ Function:transitive verb Inflected Form(s):in·tim·i·dat·ed; in·tim·i·dat·ingEtymology:Medieval Latin intimidatus, past participle of intimidare, from Latin in- + timidus timidDate:1646 : to make timid or fearful : frighten ; especially : to compel or deter by or as if by threats <tried to intimidate a witness>

[Satorian]

Originally Posted by AU N EGL

and Satorian, That my friend is Intimidation.

If the color did not bother you, you would not have those feelings.

Like Speed-King posted, there's a quite specific definition for 'intimidating'. Just being evocative in a general way is not enough to fit the description.

Suit yourself. Red I like, black for a car is kinda boring as I have walked by many black Vipers or Porsche and not even noticed them until my wife said something.

Walked by a Black AM Vantage two weeks ago, and never noticed until someone said something. Thought it was a Jag or Kit car at first

Any single color is actually pretty boring in my opinion. It's the contrasts that matter, which is why I keep harping on about red AND black/gray. Like the example mockup I posted. Or mentioning the Team Modena cars. Or Darth Vader with black suit and red lightsaber. Black and red work really well to make things interesting. Much more so than yellow, no matter with which colour combined.

[Dead-Eye]

Originally Posted by Satorian

Not exactly that dangerous to us, are they?


By the way, here's a 2-minute-mockup of my point:

That IS intimidating, looks like it just ate a very large animal
But, that livery worked in yellow too. The one they usually run doesn't because it looks like they couldn't be bothered to design one and just painted the whole thing yellow.

[Aslak Vind]

@ Dead-Eye:

I have never thought of that, this looks SCARY!!

Great, would love that livery on my Vette!

[Satorian]

Originally Posted by Dead-Eye

That IS intimidating, looks like it just ate a very large animal
But, that livery worked in yellow too. The one they usually run doesn't because it looks like they couldn't be bothered to design one and just painted the whole thing yellow.

I quickly patched some red onto the second Vette as well, just for good measure and to get the inverted paint scheme shown in red too.




You know, in case they manage to potentially clinch the GT2 championship in 2009, they should totally go with the red. Darth Maul with 480 bhp.

[WMUCarGuy]

I can't see them not being yellow in GT2 as well. I think yellow has become synonymous with Corvette Racing and I can't see them foregoing that in GT2.

[Hammerdown]

Yellow is regarded as the most visible colour, hence hazard signs being black and yellow. In the UK the fronts of trains were normally painted black and yellow diagonal stripes because it was considered to be the most visible from a distance.

[johntt]

I'd say stick with the yellow, but of they want a change then I would suggest the blue they ran in a few years ago with the C5R

[Satorian]

Originally Posted by johntt

I'd say stick with the yellow, but of they want a change then I would suggest the blue they ran in a few years ago with the C5R

That's a nice color!

[KA]

Originally Posted by Satorian

Not exactly that dangerous to us, are they?

Well, most people try not to get too 'up close and personal' with wasps...

I don't mind the yellow, but it would be good to see a change- maybe, as someone mentioned, the metallic blue used on the 60's Vette racers:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...rand_Sport.JPG

[HORNDAWG]

On the upside it seems that the P&M bunch was at Sebring testing the last few days with both GT-1 and GT-2 configurations. No official info but there are a few pics @ DSC.


L.P.

[The Badger]

The C6R is a tube frame , how is that legal to GT2 now ? ..... its not ?

[Speed-King]

With all the rumours about the General heading towards Chapter 11, how safe is the Corvette Racing programm as a whole?

[HORNDAWG]

Originally Posted by The Badger

The C6R is a tube frame , how is that legal to GT2 now ? ..... its not ?

The C6.R is not a tube frame car!!!!!!!! For the millionth time. Get over it. Also whether or not this was actually the new GT-2 chassis or a modified GT-1 car with just GT-2 bits testing is not clear. There will be an all new Aluminum chassis for the GT-2 vs the steel framed chassis that is used for the current GT-1.


L.P.

[The Badger]

Originally Posted by HORNDAWG

The C6.R is not a tube frame car!!!!!!!! For the millionth time. Get over it.

Yes it is .....

[TWK]

Originally Posted by The Badger

The C6R is a tube frame , how is that legal to GT2 now ? ..... its not ?

The C6.R is built on the hydroformed steel frame rolls of the C6. Does the C6 structure itself include tubular structures reinforced by carbon fiber panels? Yes it does. No Corvette has ever been a "unibody." This whole baloney is carried on by partisans of those wumped by Corvette over the years. The question is whether the C6.R structure is derived from that of the C6 as required by the rules, and is the same 'basic" structure. It is. Here is what we saw on the floor of the plant in Bowling Green in 2006:

Corvettes have been built exclusively in Bowling Green since production was moved there from St. Louis, Missouri, in 1981. John Spencer, Program Launch Manager for the C6 and Z06, conducted our plant tour. It’s a fascinating combination of automation and hand-building that takes place as 175 Corvettes – thirty-two of them Z06s – are built in a 9 ½ hour shift. The Corvette doesn’t have unibody, but it’s not on a “frame,” either. Rather two sophisticated hydroformed (high pressure water is used) rails are the base to which carbon fiber panels and other elements are attached to create the car’s structural platform. That’s aluminum for the Z06, and steel for the C6 and C6.R – the aluminum chassis of the Z06 hasn’t been homologated yet, though with production of about 7,000 this year, it could be.

[Hammerdown]

Might be slightly off-topic, but Dale Earnhardt Jr 'announced' that the C6.R will be released for iRacing sometime soon. Might not be the real thing, but it's as close as I'll probably ever get!

[David]

Originally Posted by TWK

The C6.R is built on the hydroformed steel frame rolls of the C6.

Just to clarify what it looks like, here are front and rear views of C5R-008 that I took at Pratt and Miller in September, 2001:





The C6.R is an evolution of this chassis. (Do you suppose P&M would let me in to shoot the GT-2 chassis?)