ELMS ELMS 2013 Discussion - Page 17

TF110 · 22 Jul 2013, 22:58 (Ref:3280647)

Got a question, did they use a different layout than the DTM cars? It'd be nice to compare pace to the P2s.

Ginaro Zukovsky · 22 Jul 2013, 23:09 (Ref:3280650)

For your question to make sense there'd have to be more than one (decent) layout at the A1 Ring...

TF110 · 23 Jul 2013, 04:34 (Ref:3280697)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ginaro Zukovsky

For your question to make sense there'd have to be more than one (decent) layout at the A1 Ring...

It made perfect sense. DTM usually runs shorter versions of the tracks (obviously it didn't apply here)

Anyway, I figured out the comparison... 1:25.505 best lap in DTM. 1:24.337 in LMP2. Qualifying pole position 1:24.836 in DTM. Pole in LMP2 1:23.737.

The Badger · 24 Jul 2013, 16:32 (Ref:3281195)

Be nice to see an Austrian team joining the grid , like RaceAlliance , Konrad or Race Alliance again .

I reckon the A1 ring is a pretty decent track .

isynge · 3 Sep 2013, 14:59 (Ref:3298360)

Is it overly cynical of me to have a little bit of "hmmmm" the back of my mind when I read of a fire in DKR's workshop meaning, if I'm reading things correctly, that they're not going to be in Budapest?

Link (in French)

jsTrecu · 3 Sep 2013, 15:24 (Ref:3298369)

That's right, they were going to test tomorrow in Magny-Cours but the cars burned last Friday at Ibanez Racing Service's workshop.
So now Budapest entries are down to 25.

That's some bad news...

Beetle · 5 Sep 2013, 22:44 (Ref:3299705)

Quote:

Originally Posted by isynge

Is it overly cynical of me to have a little bit of "hmmmm" the back of my mind when I read of a fire in DKR's workshop meaning, if I'm reading things correctly, that they're not going to be in Budapest?

Link (in French)

Is it overly cynical of me to believe that such a fire is the final nail in the proverbial coffin for DKR, a team already very much on a tight budget?

I don't think so. Sad news when you lose such a weak team, in a way... you always are rooting for them to finish the race. I hope they make it to Paul Ricard. Lovely circuit...

**bella** · 6 Sep 2013, 11:01 (Ref:3299857)

back up to 26 entries, according to the elms organisers:

http://tentenths.com/news/showentry.php?e=3894

(and seriously, if you think ricard is a lovely circuit you need to get to a few more

they just threw a lot of money at it and kept the local foliage, that's all)

Koenigsegg · 6 Sep 2013, 15:46 (Ref:3299915)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beetle

Is it overly cynical of me to believe that such a fire is the final nail in the proverbial coffin for DKR, a team already very much on a tight budget?

I don't think so. Sad news when you lose such a weak team, in a way... you always are rooting for them to finish the race. I hope they make it to Paul Ricard. Lovely circuit...

Their plan was (or still is??) to race a French P2 car next year.

Beetle · 7 Sep 2013, 21:59 (Ref:3300303)

Quote:

Originally Posted by bella

back up to 26 entries, according to the elms organisers:

http://tentenths.com/news/showentry.php?e=3894

(and seriously, if you think ricard is a lovely circuit you need to get to a few more

they just threw a lot of money at it and kept the local foliage, that's all)

It's better than Magny-Cours...

I love all race tracks (with the possible exception of the Dubai Autodrome)... it's 50% of the fun!

andy_b · 11 Sep 2013, 05:05 (Ref:3301865)

ELMS Spotter Guide hosted by Ten-Tenths.com is now online ready to download. Down to 25 entries for this event, few gone, but an extra Ferrari in GTC

download the full guide at www.spotterguides.com/2013-elms

TheMightyM · 11 Sep 2013, 23:39 (Ref:3302473)

So no Greaves again. I'm presuming that means that they couldn't find anyone willing to pony up the money for the ride.

**bella** · 12 Sep 2013, 13:00 (Ref:3302706)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beetle

It's better than Magny-Cours...

I love all race tracks (with the possible exception of the Dubai Autodrome)... it's 50% of the fun!

haha, if you ask me it's only better than magny cours because the pit buildings are newer (elms doesnt get those anyway) and the weather tends to be more appealing

magny cours is a better circuit for the spectator and there's less of that track limits faffery that goes on at ricard too. i'll take your word for it with dubai

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheMightyM

So no Greaves again. I'm presuming that means that they couldn't find anyone willing to pony up the money for the ride.

being fair to potential customers, you don't exactly get a ton of tracktime for your money, and not counting test sessions on friday it's a one day event with qualifying and the race happening on saturday. travel to hungary (both truck and personnel) and hotels aren't particulary cheap so it's not really one you can give a free ride away for either.

Pontlieue · 13 Sep 2013, 15:29 (Ref:3303412)

Pracitce times from the Hungaroring are up.

http://www.europeanlemansseries.com/...php?circuit=20

Signatech Alpine fastest in both sessions, followed by Murphy and Jota. Thiriet was only fourth is both free practice sessions.

The P2 as well as the GTE field are very close, should be an interesting race.

Simmi · 13 Sep 2013, 18:43 (Ref:3303496)

So obviously some big hype for this race...

Signatech Alpine have been dinged for the second race in a row. Passing under yellows. Not sure whether this will affect anything for qualy in the morning?

http://www.endurance-info.com/versio...nce-20623.html

**bella** · 13 Sep 2013, 19:45 (Ref:3303526)

think nelson needs to get a new pair of glasses. he never did anything remotely naughty in 3.5, let alone miss yellow flags. again. it's a shame because they've been picking up the pace all year.

wouldn't imagine it'd have an impact on quali, but i'll track down the stewards decision tomorrow morning and see what it says. if only the elms lot would use the noticeboard section of their timing website like wsr does, then people might actually be able to figure out what's going on...

Marcel ten Caat · 13 Sep 2013, 22:34 (Ref:3303610)

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheMightyM

So no Greaves again. I'm presuming that means that they couldn't find anyone willing to pony up the money for the ride.

Or it means one car is on its way to the States for the FIA WEC round there and the other is on its way to Japan for the Asian Le Mans Series ;-)

KA · 13 Sep 2013, 22:40 (Ref:3303615)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beetle

Is it overly cynical of me to believe that such a fire is the final nail in the proverbial coffin for DKR, a team already very much on a tight budget?

I don't think so. Sad news when you lose such a weak team, in a way... you always are rooting for them to finish the race. I hope they make it to Paul Ricard. Lovely circuit...

E-I are reporting that they plan to be back for Ricard, but in GTC with their BMW Z4 GT3, rather than a P2

http://www.endurance-info.com/versio...nce-20541.html

**bella** · 14 Sep 2013, 07:46 (Ref:3303728)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simmi

Signatech Alpine have been dinged for the second race in a row. Passing under yellows. Not sure whether this will affect anything for qualy in the morning?

the answer is no, just a really big deposit of €1000 towards the circuit bar tab, and a fine four times that suspended till the end of the season in case of another infringement 'of this kind'.

currently it's raining very hard, and the track conditions mean that pole and grid position will be more a case of luck rather than judgement.

Simmi · 14 Sep 2013, 12:11 (Ref:3303812)

Thanks Bella.

Hartley stuck the Murphy car on pole. Looking forward to watching the race when I get back from work. Was a very entertaining event (while it ran) at Silverstone in the rain.

Gingers4Justice · 14 Sep 2013, 14:22 (Ref:3303844)

Hard to get a word in edgeways with all the excitement about the on-going ELMS race.

Mike E · 14 Sep 2013, 15:29 (Ref:3303865)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gingers4Justice

Hard to get a word in edgeways with all the excitement about the on-going ELMS race.

That's because all seven of us are too busy watching it!

**bella** · 14 Sep 2013, 20:06 (Ref:3303980)

great win for the alpine boys, and a really decent first half of the race by ragues too. i don't really know the tyres very well so don't know how much that played into their hands.

apparently the win ties them on points with pierre thiriet just in time for the final round at paul ricard in two weeks. this is unexpectedly quite exciting!

kober · 14 Sep 2013, 23:13 (Ref:3304029)

Finally a win for Signatech. Took a while, but it's well deserved.

Here's the classification after the fourth round.

Over a thousand people were watching the stream. The stands looked empty though. Shame.

**bella** · 15 Sep 2013, 04:17 (Ref:3304082)

yep, it had rained really quite a lot from early morning, and when it's a free event people don't tend to come out if the weather is crappy. i think saturday is a normal working day for a lot of people here too. still a decent attendance during the day though

normally people sit in the last corner/main straight grandstands, so you don't see the packed out stands that you do at f1 events.

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