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Old 10 Jun 2005, 21:47 (Ref:1325113)   #1
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Awful lot of "Marshal's Needed" Threads!!

What does this mean?

Not enough marshals??

Too many meetings??

Or Both???

All constructive comments welcomed!!!!
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Old 10 Jun 2005, 21:49 (Ref:1325115)   #2
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Too many meetings

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Old 10 Jun 2005, 21:54 (Ref:1325119)   #3
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Too many meetings
All the same? Boring?? Too long??
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Old 10 Jun 2005, 22:08 (Ref:1325129)   #4
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Too many meetings, too many meetings on consecutive weekends at the same circuit.
Some marshals have a life outside of motorsport, or at least try to
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Old 10 Jun 2005, 22:08 (Ref:1325130)   #5
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The Fat Clerk should be qualifying in the top 10 on the gridThe Fat Clerk should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
To many clashing dates, a couple of weekends ago, Silverstone, Donington, Mallory & Rockingham all had Car Racing on, there's only a finite amount of marshals to go round.
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Old 10 Jun 2005, 22:27 (Ref:1325135)   #6
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Too many meetings
With far to many races/classes at each one, no or little time to eat lunch - Some days NEVER seem to end.

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Old 10 Jun 2005, 23:30 (Ref:1325159)   #7
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Fuel + Sustenance + Accommodation +Regular basis = Expensive!!!
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Old 10 Jun 2005, 23:41 (Ref:1325163)   #8
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Ditto all of the foregoing, plus to use an analogy when you get dumped on you tend to move out of the way! Which could explain why some meetings and venues are better supported than others
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Old 11 Jun 2005, 06:02 (Ref:1325355)   #9
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True, i.e. Donington is only a 30 minute drive away, yet I go there once a year, Brands is 3 hours away and I do about 10 days a year there.
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Old 12 Jun 2005, 13:48 (Ref:1326319)   #10
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Please Keep The Comments Coming!

Thanks for the comments - there seems to be a trend developing here! - To my no great surprise!

I'm very interested to hear any and all comments on the subject, please continue to post and/or email me > thepits@fsmail.net

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Old 12 Jun 2005, 21:04 (Ref:1326733)   #11
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And another thing, if the chief pit marshal was any cop, or fitted the 'Bill', or played 'Simon' says, there might be more volunteers!!!
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Old 12 Jun 2005, 21:27 (Ref:1326758)   #12
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And another thing, if the chief pit marshal was any cop, or fitted the 'Bill', or played 'Simon' says, there might be more volunteers!!!
I have started this year to only volunteer through the organising clubs not the circuits ES teams as some circuits have a tendency to have a group who get beter treated than others. Say you ask for training in a diferent area to what you normaly do then you get overlooked but someone who is with the in growd gets the training. I find that volunteering through the clubs has helped me learn a lot more about marshaling than through the ES Teams. Also I find the Chief Marshals be it Pit, Assemby, Start Line or Circuit have all been very helpfull. If I have had any issues I know I can always ask the question and I will get a honest answer.

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Old 12 Jun 2005, 21:38 (Ref:1326772)   #13
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Steve, that's good to hear (or should that be read?), and despite the comment in my last post, I have heard Simon is OK.

If you're based in Lincolnshire and in the BMMC, then presumably you come under Midlands region, but if you wanted to be with the 'elite', join the South Midlands crew, cos we're much better than those northern jessies , and I have heard theri training officer is pretty cool too!
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Old 12 Jun 2005, 22:36 (Ref:1326834)   #14
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Oi! Watch it - I'm based in Lincolnshire, I'm in the BMMC N.E.Region, and their Training Officer, so hands off, he is one of ours!!!
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Old 13 Jun 2005, 08:09 (Ref:1327094)   #15
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No-one's mentioned small grids yet. I would much rather marshal a meeting where capacity grids are the norm, rather than races of 10 or 11 cars ...
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Old 13 Jun 2005, 10:30 (Ref:1327214)   #16
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small grids dont help, if no cars and long circuits are on no-one wants to be there, i think a few of the marshalls needed threads are up at this time as a lot of us are on holiday or in fact we have just had the nrth west 200 and tt and i know a few of the oulton lads have gone the tt
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Old 13 Jun 2005, 12:50 (Ref:1327270)   #17
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I too am also in lincolnshire, and HAVE never considered myself as a Nomanlander (or midlander)
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Old 13 Jun 2005, 14:44 (Ref:1327372)   #18
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it means 1 too many car meeting all at the same w/ends
2 repected your marshall for w/end work done
3 outher committemt ie work / her indoor which most of us have
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Old 13 Jun 2005, 15:47 (Ref:1327432)   #19
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... despite the comment in my last post, I have heard Simon is OK.
looks like I've got at least one fan!


Seriously though, although I feel sure I know many of the reasons why we are so short of marshals at meetings, I'm still very interested to get as many comments as possible from the 'grass-roots' so to speak.

As you may be aware there is a project currently in hand which has been set up to address the whole issue of why there is a lack of marshals, and attempt to improve the situation.
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Old 13 Jun 2005, 16:30 (Ref:1327466)   #20
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The problem in my opinion is too many clashing meetings which could be avoided if clubs and circuits communicated more. Also, too many championships for similar cars. If the MSA regulated things properly and merged some championships we would have fewer categories, which would mean fewer meetings, fewer clashes, better racing from bigger grids, and better manning levels. Nobody will do anything until meetings are regularly being cancelled through lack of marshals.
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No-one's mentioned small grids yet. I would much rather marshal a meeting where capacity grids are the norm, rather than races of 10 or 11 cars ...
Could explain why 750mc never have probs with a lack of bods, maybe the other clubs that are having difficulties should speak to the two Peters and try to find out if or what they are doing wrong
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Old 14 Jun 2005, 18:32 (Ref:1328592)   #23
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Could explain why 750mc never have probs with a lack of bods, maybe the other clubs that are having difficulties should speak to the two Peters and try to find out if or what they are doing wrong

the answer is probably marshall doing 750cc have more bods as the saying
go,s i dont do bikes i do cars and vice versa this could go on for ever
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Old 14 Jun 2005, 22:26 (Ref:1328813)   #24
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Could explain why 750mc never have probs with a lack of bods, maybe the other clubs that are having difficulties should speak to the two Peters and try to find out if or what they are doing wrong
You obviously weren't @ Donington earlier in the season,
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Old 15 Jun 2005, 00:53 (Ref:1328883)   #25
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Chicago Region of SCCA created a site that allows cornerworkers (flag marshals, observers, response) to sign up to work events for their region and others in the area. They send e-mails out to all who are on the master worker list with a link embedded in the e-mail. Those who want to attend the event can click on the link or go to the site to sign up.

I realize you have a lot of clubs with different events, but so do we and the Chicago folks have made it easier for everyone in the area. You might want to consider doing something similar to fit your own needs.

Take a look at www.cornerworker.net
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