Motorsport Quiz - Page 9

Gerard C · 21 Dec 2022, 10:01 (Ref:4137744)

May be Malcolm is right with 20 500 rpm, must work not only for Renault but BMW and Honda. How can we justify any answer knowing that this is a well kept secret? The second needle tends to disappear together with the chronometric system.

Gerard C · 21 Dec 2022, 10:01 (Ref:4137745)

Gosh, EB you're a real killer!!!! And your english is almost perfect…

crmalcolm · 21 Dec 2022, 10:36 (Ref:4137749)

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Originally Posted by rbs

OK, what is the highest number of revs recorded on an engine in a Grand Prix?

Looking into this further, I think the answer may lie in the MGU-H which revs at 125,000rpm.

Greem · 21 Dec 2022, 10:44 (Ref:4137750)

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Originally Posted by E.B

The only thing I can think of without researching it is the Pratt and Whitney Turbine that Lotus experimented with back in I think 1971.

I think you're on to something there. The STN 6/76 modified turbine engine ran the main shaft at something approaching 45k rpm (according to Mr Wikipedia, anyway).

crmalcolm · 21 Dec 2022, 10:51 (Ref:4137752)

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Originally Posted by Greem

I think you're on to something there. The STN 6/76 modified turbine engine ran the main shaft at something approaching 45k rpm (according to Mr Wikipedia, anyway).

This seems to be the answer.

I guess it depends on whether the question refers to the main PU (which I think it does), or rpm of any component of the engine (which would mean the MGU-H or similar)?

rbs · 21 Dec 2022, 10:54 (Ref:4137753)

That is the right engine Chris, originally quoted in magazines as 38000 to 46000 revs, no one seems to agree. It is now quoted as 100% on the N1 & N2 gauges which is beyond me!

Greem · 21 Dec 2022, 11:00 (Ref:4137754)

Bob, N1/N2/N3 (for some turbine engines) are the percentage of nominal rotation for the fan & low pressure compressor (N1) and high pressure compressor (N2, engine core).

'Nominal' is a manufacturer specification, so it's possible to push a turbine engine to >100% N1/N2 for specified periods.

rbs · 21 Dec 2022, 14:45 (Ref:4137779)

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Originally Posted by Greem

Bob, N1/N2/N3 (for some turbine engines) are the percentage of nominal rotation for the fan & low pressure compressor (N1) and high pressure compressor (N2, engine core).

'Nominal' is a manufacturer specification, so it's possible to push a turbine engine to >100% N1/N2 for specified periods.

Thanks Graeme.

E.B · 22 Dec 2022, 09:47 (Ref:4137834)

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Originally Posted by bludvl_x19

~40,000 RPM?

So with that being the correct answer as to how many RPM is the F1 race record, you get to ask the next question.

bludvl_x19 · 23 Dec 2022, 01:23 (Ref:4137917)

I'm in awe of the knowledge in this group, so I've tried to make it something a bit abstract, hopefully its possible to figure out...

What specific car links the 1968 Singapore GP winner, and the 1976 F1 World Champion? And then, what is the personal significance of the occasion that the '76 World Champion drove it?

E.B · 23 Dec 2022, 01:39 (Ref:4137918)

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What specific car links the 1968 Singapore GP winner, and the 1976 F1 World Champion? And then, what is the personal significance of the occasion that the '76 World Champion drove it?

So as not to spoil the fun I'll defer answering because by chance I was reading of this recently and thus able to answer all parts of the question. Good question though.

crmalcolm · 23 Dec 2022, 07:05 (Ref:4137926)

Elfin MR8B Chev.
29 October 1978, his final race win at the Winton ‘Rose City 10000’?

S griffin · 23 Dec 2022, 08:06 (Ref:4137929)

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Originally Posted by crmalcolm

Elfin MR8B Chev.
29 October 1978, his final race win at the Winton ‘Rose City 10000’?

I think that could be the right answer

bludvl_x19 · 23 Dec 2022, 12:28 (Ref:4137948)

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Originally Posted by crmalcolm

Elfin MR8B Chev.
29 October 1978, his final race win at the Winton ‘Rose City 10000’?

Yep, got it in one. The next question is yours.

E.B · 23 Dec 2022, 12:38 (Ref:4137949)

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Originally Posted by crmalcolm

Elfin MR8B Chev.
29 October 1978, his final race win at the Winton ‘Rose City 10000’?

If anyone cares, other F1 drivers of the era to race MR8 Elfins were Didier Pironi, Vern Schuppan and Larrie Perkins.
Pironi ran MR8 Chassis #8761 at the 1980 Australian GP at Calder. (He was meant to drive the new MR9 but it was brand new and untested, so Cooper drove it and put Pironi in the older car..)

Schuppan drove the same MR8 as Hunt (#8783) at the 1978 Australian GP at Sandown, and crashed it, the month prior to Hunt winning in #8783 at Winton. Garry Cooper also crashed an MR8 separately in that 1978 AGP (MR8 #8761) so a bad weekend for Elfin MR8's

Shuppan actually had MR8 #8772 as well.... Vern ran that car converted to a Can Am car, and that he used in over 15 races in the US iduring 1978-1979 and 1 in 1980

As far as I know only 3 MR8s were built.

The Hunt #8783 car still races regularly in Historic Races in Australia

1978 Aus GP (before it became a WDC event) highlights if anyone is interested. https://youtu.be/P8yGXAIgYr0

(It shows both Elfin MR8 incidents c 13 minutes in)

crmalcolm · 23 Dec 2022, 13:44 (Ref:4137955)

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Originally Posted by E.B

If anyone cares, other F1 drivers of the era to race MR8 Elfins were Didier Pironi, Vern Schuppan and Larrie Perkins.

So - on to the next question:

Reigning World Champion Alberto Ascari set a new record for most Grand Prix victories, scoring the seventh win of his career at Zandvoort.
Stuart Lewis-Evans took his first podium finish and Maria Teresa de Filippis became the first woman to complete a Formula 1 Grand Prix.
Innes Ireland made his World Championship debut and scored, finishing in fourth place for Lotus.
John Surtees, who on the previous day had taken the final pole position for the Cooper team – and the final pole for a Maserati engine – won the event.
Carlos Pace made his Formula 1 debut, while Peter Revson recorded the first podium finish of his career.
Ligier dominated the race, with Jacques Laffite leading home a 1-2 finish for the team. This race was the only one in which Laffite scored a Grand Slam in his career. Laffite took pole position, led every lap and scored the fastest lap of the race on his way to victory.
Riccardo Patrese won for Brabham, while Jean-Pierre Jarier, Bruno Giacomelli and Danny Sullivan made their final appearances.
Damon Hill finished second, scoring Williams’ 200th podium finish. Martin Brundle finished in third place for Ligier, finishing on the podium for the final time in his career.
Mika Hakkinen led home a McLaren 1-2. Both Sauber drivers retired from the race despite a strong showing from Jean Alesi on the previous day, who qualified in fifth place.

What links these races and nine other F1 drivers? Who (AFAIK) are the only nine drivers in the history of F1 who hold this distinction.
Can you name all nine drivers?

BTCC frog · 23 Dec 2022, 15:06 (Ref:4137967)

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Originally Posted by crmalcolm

So - on to the next question:

Reigning World Champion Alberto Ascari set a new record for most Grand Prix victories, scoring the seventh win of his career at Zandvoort.
Dutch GP 1952
Stuart Lewis-Evans took his first podium finish and Maria Teresa de Filippis became the first woman to complete a Formula 1 Grand Prix.
Belgian GP 1958
Innes Ireland made his World Championship debut and scored, finishing in fourth place for Lotus.
Dutch GP 1959
John Surtees, who on the previous day had taken the final pole position for the Cooper team – and the final pole for a Maserati engine – won the event.
Mexican GP 1966
Carlos Pace made his Formula 1 debut, while Peter Revson recorded the first podium finish of his career.
South African GP 1972
Ligier dominated the race, with Jacques Laffite leading home a 1-2 finish for the team. This race was the only one in which Laffite scored a Grand Slam in his career. Laffite took pole position, led every lap and scored the fastest lap of the race on his way to victory.
Brazilian GP 1979
Riccardo Patrese won for Brabham, while Jean-Pierre Jarier, Bruno Giacomelli and Danny Sullivan made their final appearances.
South African GP 1983
Damon Hill finished second, scoring Williams’ 200th podium finish. Martin Brundle finished in third place for Ligier, finishing on the podium for the final time in his career.
Belgian GP 1995
Mika Hakkinen led home a McLaren 1-2. Both Sauber drivers retired from the race despite a strong showing from Jean Alesi on the previous day, who qualified in fifth place.
Austrian GP 1998?

What links these races and nine other F1 drivers? Who (AFAIK) are the only nine drivers in the history of F1 who hold this distinction.
Can you name all nine drivers?

Still need to find the link, though.

crmalcolm · 23 Dec 2022, 15:10 (Ref:4137968)

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Originally Posted by BTCC frog

Still need to find the link, though.

The last one is not the right race.

E.B · 23 Dec 2022, 16:01 (Ref:4137974)

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Originally Posted by crmalcolm

The last one is not the right race.

Spain 1999

crmalcolm · 23 Dec 2022, 16:24 (Ref:4137978)

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Originally Posted by E.B

Spain 1999

Yes - that's the race.

What links those specific races and nine other F1 drivers?
And who are the nine?

crmalcolm · 23 Dec 2022, 16:32 (Ref:4137980)

Ahead of the weekend, and in the likelihood that this thread might go quiet for a few days - I's like to take this opportunity to thank BTCC frog for starting this thread.

As has been shown - trivia can cause disagreements, and the age of certain F1 details means that reliability is not always a given. So I'd also like to thank everyone who has contributed so far - and express gratitude for the lack of 'point scoring' and 'nit-picking' in the responses. I hope that others have taken the same from this thread that I have - in terms of being exposed to parts of F1 history that they may otherwise have been unaware of and in researching questions or answers, their knowledge has broadened.