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7 Apr 2003, 23:24 (Ref:562271)
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Do pretty cars win races?
I once heard a comment from a very well respected chief designer that "Pretty cars don't win races..."
What are your thoughts on this... Do pretty cars win? Do winners become pretty cars? |
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7 Apr 2003, 23:43 (Ref:562285)
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I think to a large degree, the winners become the standard for pretty.
Then again, there are some cars which would have been breathtaking if they'd lost every race they'd been entered in. McLaren F1, Porsche 911 GT1, Ferrari GTO, Porsche 917, Porsche 550... |
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8 Apr 2003, 05:19 (Ref:562386)
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I won't comment the Audis but :
- BMW : nice - Porsche GT1 : great - Joest spyders : huh... - Mac Laren : I'm not a fan, but I know there's great amateurs here - FG ?  - Dauer Porsche : huh... - Peugeot : not bad - Mazda : one of my favourites  - Sauber : good - Jaguar : another giant ... Feel free to not agree !
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8 Apr 2003, 05:25 (Ref:562391)
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The Panoz LMP-01, which is butt ugly, won races. Because they beat Audi, people think they're beautiful.
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8 Apr 2003, 05:31 (Ref:562397)
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BTW, my favourite Panozes were the 99' black spyders, and the 97/98 Esperantes and Hybrids... Last edited by Fab; 8 Apr 2003 at 05:32. |
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8 Apr 2003, 05:51 (Ref:562404)
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Well, speaking of Le Mans, "pretty" cars have often won. I too tend to think first of 1988/90 and 1995.
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8 Apr 2003, 09:42 (Ref:562561)
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mmmm, yes, but the prettiest car ever to compete at LM didn´t won... the Ferrari P4. But I agree that beautiful cars usually win
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8 Apr 2003, 11:47 (Ref:562674)
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Not the strangest spelling of that i've seen, but close. Mack Lauren is the worst  heeheeBruce McLaren
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8 Apr 2003, 11:51 (Ref:562678)
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And yes pretty cars do win races. That's why Ferrari won the championship last, year, and Williams didn't...
But, strange that Audi won and not Bentley, and how BMW (not that that was an ungly car by any means) and not the Toyota. Anyway. I think a more suitable expression is "if it looks right; it is right..." Too true (BTW: Anyone know who said that?) |
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8 Apr 2003, 12:05 (Ref:562693)
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8 Apr 2003, 13:01 (Ref:562761)
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the money spending one
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8 Apr 2003, 13:13 (Ref:562775)
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I used it as an example because i knew my argument would collapse if i used LM as the example...
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8 Apr 2003, 14:24 (Ref:562838)
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I thought they had gone out of business years ago!
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8 Apr 2003, 18:45 (Ref:563065)
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You didn't really think F1 had gone out of business did you?
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8 Apr 2003, 19:24 (Ref:563097)
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F what?
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8 Apr 2003, 20:52 (Ref:563233)
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Alright, just checking. i couldn't tell if you were entirely serious there...
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9 Apr 2003, 02:11 (Ref:563462)
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Was Bruce related to Ralph Mc Lauren?
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9 Apr 2003, 03:35 (Ref:563487)
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didn't
gordon murray say that? about "looking right"? besides, of course they do. the Viper won LeMans (GTS) 1-2, 3 years in a row, and has 7 major championships and countless national titles to it's brood. :-) and when it comes back reborn, skin shed, and fully evolved...it'll do it again.
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