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Old 7 Jun 2005, 07:45 (Ref:1322099)   #1
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Loton Park

Weather looks promising for this weekend, lots of drivers and cars showing good speed recently (4 records fell at Shelsley last weekend), and I understand Ecurie Fleetwood will be at Loton as well. Here's hoping Adam has better luck than last time.
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Old 7 Jun 2005, 12:51 (Ref:1322323)   #2
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Not certain yet whether I'll be there, but it's looking more likely than not (wahaay, two extra days over my original season's plan!)

I'm concerned that the Saturday pig-roast could constitute an excessively large pork pie and therefore extra marshals may be needed.
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Old 8 Jun 2005, 10:52 (Ref:1323075)   #3
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We could get away with it Woolley - no pastry involved in the pig roast and its outside of competitive hours. See everyone there - dont wake the rescue crew unlike last weekend at Shelsley!
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Old 8 Jun 2005, 19:40 (Ref:1323426)   #4
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How much does it cost to get into Loton Park as a spectator.
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Old 8 Jun 2005, 20:21 (Ref:1323451)   #5
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£10 on Sunday, £5 on Saturday.

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Old 13 Jun 2005, 10:55 (Ref:1327228)   #6
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Any news on who came where?
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Old 13 Jun 2005, 13:24 (Ref:1327307)   #7
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Results at http://www.hdlcc.com/downloads/2005/Results/120605.pdf and there's a report on top12runoff.

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Old 13 Jun 2005, 14:08 (Ref:1327343)   #8
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Plus some good photos at http://www.2t4t.co.uk

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Old 13 Jun 2005, 16:52 (Ref:1327485)   #9
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I understand that Roy Lane has bought the Fleetwood Gould. I look forward to seeing Roy back driving again.
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Old 13 Jun 2005, 18:17 (Ref:1327543)   #10
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Really? I hadn't heard that. Nice to see Roy at the week=end, though.

Great meeting - loads of personal bests and a really tight run off. There were some very happy drives all around.
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Old 13 Jun 2005, 19:13 (Ref:1327585)   #11
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I understand that Roy Lane has bought the Fleetwood Gould. I look forward to seeing Roy back driving again.
Must have dropped in price most considerably then.
Can't see that myself.
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You can't see the price dropping, or you can't see Roy buying, or you can't see Roy driving?

AFAIK the price dropped and Roy bought. The 'For Sale' signs came down Sunday lunchtime and Roger F didn't take his afternoon run.

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Old 13 Jun 2005, 22:40 (Ref:1327806)   #13
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Cheers for that snippet Paul.
Lets hope he will be well enough to pedal it himself.
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Old 13 Jun 2005, 23:03 (Ref:1327825)   #14
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You can't see the price dropping, or you can't see Roy buying, or you can't see Roy driving?

AFAIK the price dropped and Roy bought. The 'For Sale' signs came down Sunday lunchtime and Roger F didn't take his afternoon run.

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nice to read posts from at least ONE person who actually KNOWS what they are talking about.

Thx Paul.

p.s. "can't see Roy driving???" I would never want to see that day, no offense to all others.

Sorry Paul (hence the edit) Have forgotten to congratulate you on your season so far. Well done mate.
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Old 13 Jun 2005, 23:32 (Ref:1327840)   #15
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Thanks.

It would be good to see Roy competing again, but it would be plain old interesting to see John Chalmers out in a competitive car. As long as he doesn't go too fast of course...

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The most deserved man of the meeting ever to John Chalmers. We were trying to work out if that was the oldest car ever to qualify for a modern top 12 run off. Then someone asked when the last time a metal car qualified...

Stunning drive, and no fluke either. Qualified absolutely on merit.
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The 'For Sale' signs came down Sunday lunchtime and Roger F didn't take his afternoon run.
Ah well, he did have two goes at his morning run...
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Old 14 Jun 2005, 07:44 (Ref:1328023)   #17
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I qualified our metal MP58 in the two runoffs at Prescott at the end of last year - so not that long ago. But, it was quite a bit newer than John Chalmers car and had a fair bit more power. Stunning drive by John - he really looks so smooth and neat through the corners.

Actually where would you draw the line on metal cars - aren't the GR37s carbon over ali. honeycomb? And the MP72 is carbon cockpit surround with ali sides and floor. Could be here for days!
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Old 14 Jun 2005, 09:44 (Ref:1328116)   #18
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GR55 also has aluminium honeycomb cores.

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Old 14 Jun 2005, 12:32 (Ref:1328250)   #19
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i think you will find all carbon cars have honeycomb in them,all f3 do for sure,so do many F1,s the advantage they have over ali tubbed cars are their
resistance to flex,so there torsional stiffnessis far greater,and the bonus is when you have a mishap you
just bolt new wishbones back on,not needing a new tub and the wishbones do not peirce the cockpit alla ali ones.so the safety aspect is much better.
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Old 14 Jun 2005, 12:42 (Ref:1328263)   #20
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i think you will find all carbon cars have honeycomb in them,all f3 do for sure,so do many F1,s the advantage they have over ali tubbed cars are their
resistance to flex,so there torsional stiffnessis far greater,and the bonus is when you have a mishap you
just bolt new wishbones back on,not needing a new tub and the wishbones do not peirce the cockpit alla ali ones.so the safety aspect is much better.
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Safety aspect definately much better as a Carbon Tub maintains its shape. However not so sure about piercing situation? Whilst a Carbon Tub can stand high loads over a large area...how would it stand up to this load over a small area? such as the end of a wishbone or other sharp objects...
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A matter of design

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Safety aspect definately much better as a Carbon Tub maintains its shape. However not so sure about piercing situation? Whilst a Carbon Tub can stand high loads over a large area...how would it stand up to this load over a small area? such as the end of a wishbone or other sharp objects...
It is a matter of design, for example lower wishbone pick-up points located beneth the tub so if a wishbone is forced inwards it just slides under the tub.
Also the arms in the wishbones are designed to deform when the impact is lateral. I have seen several Goulds suffer very bent wishbones due to side impacts on the wheels but no intrusion.

The ex-circuit cars like your Reynard are fully tested for such impacts and there should be a crash test certificate for the 913.

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Old 14 Jun 2005, 17:32 (Ref:1328516)   #22
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Didn't he do well sunday. congrat's to john for a great weekend.
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Marshals study Viz magazine shock

Enough serious stuff for a moment. I spotted the rescue crew (led by Santa) at Triangle reading the latest edition of Viz on Sunday. In fact there were quite studious expressions all round. I noticed that particular attention was being paid to the Profanisaurus, which is the dictionary of swearing. I should know, because I had already read my copy from cover to cover so recognised the page from my vantage point. I didn't think the rescue team needed any help in that area. Did anyone notice any more colourful language than usual over the weekend? If so, I think we know where it came from.

Woolley has already told me that if you can hear a driver cursing inside the helmet as you approach an incident you can be fairly certain that no serious injury has been suffered. Any views on this?
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Old 14 Jun 2005, 21:37 (Ref:1328779)   #24
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Rescue Crew and reading in the same paragraph? Schurley there musht be schum mishtake??
Isn't that why all the 'medical Journals' have lots of pictures!!!!

Cheers guys..................

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Woolley has already told me that if you can hear a driver cursing inside the helmet as you approach an incident you can be fairly certain that no serious injury has been suffered. Any views on this?
Absolutely. Normal condition, clearly. I sometimes think that helmets are specially designed to muffle the swearing noises!
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