BTCC Rounds 13, 14 & 15, Thruxton. - Page 6

porsche962fan · 20 Sep 2020, 16:51 (Ref:4005110)

standings, we need a rotten race meeting for Sutton and Tingram and Butcher might have a real chance !

Sutton 209
Turks 193
Tingram 177
Butcher 175
Cammish 167

Evantra · 20 Sep 2020, 16:52 (Ref:4005112)

Nic Hamilton must've done about 1 lap today... not his fault to be fair, just a hopelessly unreliable car!

Very pleased for Cook, he needed that! And today I think we saw the Ingram of past seasons, himself and Butcher may have given them a lifeline in the championship.

Craner Curves · 20 Sep 2020, 17:19 (Ref:4005114)

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Originally Posted by porsche962fan

standings, we need a rotten race meeting for Sutton and Tingram and Butcher might have a real chance !

Sutton 209
Turks 193
Tingram 177
Butcher 175
Cammish 167

What's wrong with Tingram doing well?

Thruxton just reaffirmed that it's pants for actual racing today. And it's not going to be much better at the point and squirt of Silverstone next week. Ford triple win anyone?

swooshiain · 20 Sep 2020, 17:40 (Ref:4005118)

The incident with Alex Jay in the last Mini race had a real air of inevitability about it. As he showed in the previous race, he seems to drive like he's playing on his Xbox. He has some raw pace, but he needs a serious talking to before he's allowed back on a race track.

Alfisti · 20 Sep 2020, 17:48 (Ref:4005121)

Interesting day.

Matt Neal was excellent, drove superbly and looked like the chap who used to win championships.

Tingram and his car were super, and I particularly enjoyed his close racing with Ash Sutton in the final race.

Rob Austin was a pleasant surprise, looked clean, in control and pretty quick all day long.

Has Nic Hamiltons budget been hoovered up by the accident repair? Looked like he was only there to briefly circulate before stopping each race. I know #HARD run on small budgets, but was the car really that badly prepped/ running end of life bits?

My biggest disappointment this year, the AmD Civics, continue to disappoint sadly.

crmalcolm · 20 Sep 2020, 17:55 (Ref:4005123)

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Originally Posted by porsche962fan

standings, we need a rotten race meeting for Sutton and Tingram and Butcher might have a real chance !

Sutton 209
Turks 193
Tingram 177
Butcher 175
Cammish 167

Maybe the introduction of a class-based scoring system might give you something positive in the BTCC?....

mark_l · 20 Sep 2020, 17:58 (Ref:4005125)

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Originally Posted by Alfisti

Interesting day.

Has Nic Hamiltons budget been hoovered up by the accident repair? Looked like he was only there to briefly circulate before stopping each race. I know #HARD run on small budgets, but was the car really that badly prepped/ running end of life bits?

It was mentioned that his clutch was slipping during the first race, I would of thought a team could change a clutch during the course of the afternoon even if it meant missing the second race. I suspect Team Hard don't have a spare racing clutch and it was just a case of send him out and see if it fixes itself.

I have heard rumours, from a previous season, of the team running second hand/used brake pads and discs they have bought from other teams.

Evantra · 20 Sep 2020, 18:04 (Ref:4005128)

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Originally Posted by swooshiain

The incident with Alex Jay in the last Mini race had a real air of inevitability about it. As he showed in the previous race, he seems to drive like he's playing on his Xbox. He has some raw pace, but he needs a serious talking to before he's allowed back on a race track.

I used to kart with him, and he was exactly the same then. Very little racecraft, you never really felt like you were going to make the next corner with him behind you.

God knows what he was thinking. Paul's reaction was very satisfying though!

swooshiain · 20 Sep 2020, 18:21 (Ref:4005134)

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Originally Posted by Evantra

I used to kart with him, and he was exactly the same then. Very little racecraft, you never really felt like you were going to make the next corner with him behind you.

God knows what he was thinking. Paul's reaction was very satisfying though!

You'd like to think that being humiliated and then scolded on live tv might make him learn a lesson, but sometimes, you just know that nothing is going to get through. See also: Ticktum, Dan.

Gregdenton1974 · 20 Sep 2020, 18:37 (Ref:4005144)

Don’t usually comment on specific drivers and I don’t really have grounds to pass comment but to be honest Andy Neate has to be the most useless driver I have seen in the BTCC for many a season.
What was he doing today....

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mark_l · 20 Sep 2020, 18:42 (Ref:4005146)

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Originally Posted by Gregdenton1974

Don’t usually comment on specific drivers and I don’t really have grounds to pass comment but to be honest Andy Neate has to be the most useless driver I have seen in the BTCC for many a season.
What was he doing today....

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He did finish 18th in race 3, hardly stunning when your team mates were 3rd and 13th I admit, but at least he didn't run out of talent like he usually does.

Pickles · 20 Sep 2020, 18:48 (Ref:4005149)

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Originally Posted by Evantra

Nic Hamilton must've done about 1 lap today... not his fault to be fair, just a hopelessly unreliable car!

The issue with Nic's car today was with his hand operated clutch, same issue all day unfortunately despite having the engine and gearbox out and back in after race 1.

Pickles · 20 Sep 2020, 18:51 (Ref:4005151)

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Originally Posted by RS67

Which took just the 1 lap. Neate was with him for a whole lap before the incident, so I ask again, why would he have waited so long if it was retaliation for Boardley having pushed him off onto the grass in the opening laps?

Looking like Neate isn't going to receive a penalty so presumably TOCA have looked at it. Which means it was just a really **** piece of driving rather than deliberate.

mark_l · 20 Sep 2020, 19:44 (Ref:4005164)

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Originally Posted by Pickles

Looking like Neate isn't going to receive a penalty so presumably TOCA have looked at it. Which means it was just a really **** piece of driving rather than deliberate.

It was probably argued that Neate out braked himself resulting in him hitting Boardley the first time, Boardley then got a bit of a tank slapper on recovering from the tap, being a RWD, and Neate had no where to go, resulting in the second contact.

Result: NFA.

CaptRustyNail · 20 Sep 2020, 19:51 (Ref:4005168)

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Originally Posted by Evantra

Harry King is brilliant... but is he really that good to have such an advantage? Just driving round the outside of everyone. Things don't seem quite... equal.

He is fast and courageous in his overtakes to be fair but he has made one or two errors by trying to drive as hard and fast as possible every lap. Imagine how could he can be if he balanced that with conservatism to see out races. Not sure if his style of driving was the ultimate cause of his punctures or not but just my view

Evantra · 20 Sep 2020, 20:13 (Ref:4005180)

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Originally Posted by mark_l

It was probably argued that Neate out braked himself resulting in him hitting Boardley the first time, Boardley then got a bit of a tank slapper on recovering from the tap, being a RWD, and Neate had no where to go, resulting in the second contact.

Result: NFA.

If that's the case, then that's a complete joke. Neate couldn't have been any more blatant, was clearly steering away from the racing line and into Boardley,

peebee2 · 20 Sep 2020, 20:36 (Ref:4005185)

Neate has been disqualified from the whole meeting after race 3...

C 1.1.4 acting against the interests of motorsport.

C 1.1.9 Abusive language, behaviour and physical assault.

Class act (not).

Evantra · 20 Sep 2020, 20:51 (Ref:4005190)

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Originally Posted by peebee2

Neate has been disqualified from the whole meeting after race 3...

C 1.1.4 acting against the interests of motorsport.

C 1.1.9 Abusive language, behaviour and physical assault.

Class act (not).

Wow, where did you see this? The second bit is even worse.

Will Motorbase keep him?

Matt K · 20 Sep 2020, 20:54 (Ref:4005192)

For me it's a clear sign Neate should be forbidden to race in BTCC ever again...

Pickles · 20 Sep 2020, 21:05 (Ref:4005194)

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Originally Posted by peebee2

Neate has been disqualified from the whole meeting after race 3...

C 1.1.4 acting against the interests of motorsport.

C 1.1.9 Abusive language, behaviour and physical assault.

Class act (not).

The right decision, I'm not one of those who usually knocks him but his actions today were disgraceful.

porsche962fan · 20 Sep 2020, 21:12 (Ref:4005195)

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Originally Posted by Evantra

Will Motorbase keep him?

can they afford not to ? as you noticed they don't actually have a main sponsor on the cars

porsche962fan · 20 Sep 2020, 21:17 (Ref:4005196)

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Originally Posted by peebee2

Neate has been disqualified from the whole meeting after race 3...

C 1.1.4 acting against the interests of motorsport.

C 1.1.9 Abusive language, behaviour and physical assault.

Class act (not).

where is this info from ?

peebee2 · 20 Sep 2020, 21:20 (Ref:4005197)

The official, amended results issued at the track.

thetool · 20 Sep 2020, 21:20 (Ref:4005198)

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Originally Posted by porsche962fan

where is this info from ?

It's on all the official, now amended, race results.

**bella** · 20 Sep 2020, 21:27 (Ref:4005199)

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Originally Posted by peebee2

C 1.1.9 Abusive language, behaviour and physical assault.

interested to know the story behind that one in particular, but if they have to pull out that end of the rule book someone's been a real piece of work to deserve it.

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