LM24 La Sarthe/Arnage Track and Other Changes - Page 27

Michel Vaillant · 13 May 2015, 19:01 (Ref:3537185)

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Originally Posted by deggis

I'm still confused whether it is more about public road safety or race circuit safety. In the first-mentioned case benefits would be obvious.

In my opinion, it's more about public road safety. These "pink gravels" are very common on the side of french national roads.

Deleted · 13 May 2015, 20:26 (Ref:3537229)

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Originally Posted by TF110

SAFER Barriers to the right side at the first curve. Nice to read that.

Yes these kind of changes are good in my book.

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Originally Posted by deggis

I'm still confused whether it is more about public road safety or race circuit safety. In the first-mentioned case benefits would be obvious.

Didn't we already hear it was a (knee-jerk move) towards race safety?
http://tentenths.com/forum/showpost....&postcount=487

Putting aside Mulsanne-Indy and Arnage-Curves bits, I would really love to hear how the 'shoulders' between Indy corner and Arnage - you know the low speed short straight with no curving - improve anything. And that bit is gonna be removed from public roads too soon, so it is purely for the race.

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Originally Posted by Gingers4Justice

Maybe on the straights cars will go onto the asphalt to lap two GTs scrapping with each other in the first couple of hours

Which is about as dangerous as it gets, getting almost in touch with the fence while fiercely trying to put on good lap. Before they had to wait in line in such circumstances (which happen more often than one would think) but now they can just ram their way through.

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Originally Posted by Gingers4Justice

but if you try to cut one of those three kinks leading to Indy, even curbs as low as those are going to launch you into the air at those speeds - or if they don't, they'll cause enough of a disturbance to increase lap time rather than reduce it.

Those kerbs look so minor you could have the car bypassing them. Running in between them. Whatever the therm is.

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Originally Posted by Gingers4Justice

Again, I refer to the case of Mulsanne Kink - if that corner is ever cut I rarely see it, and it's had similar asphalt run-off for years.

It's not the optimal driving line there as preparation for the Mulsanne Corner braking zone. Also as smaller factor the offside asphalt is older there and not optimally shiny like here and other recently paved areas.

We will have to see how much of the "pink gravel" there will be but in any case it's more like dust than nails on road. Like going off line to Pirelli tyre garbage in F1 race.

**Adam43** · 13 May 2015, 20:45 (Ref:3537232)

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Originally Posted by batmobile

Video may 11st :https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/1...22742228712026

Thank you very much sir.

Oh look, something to discourage drivers from using the very edges.

**batmobile** · 13 May 2015, 20:57 (Ref:3537236)

The pink gravel strip is not wide and not very thick. It would have to be quicly compressed. But I'm not sure it's a good idea to have spread the gravel just before the race ??

CTD · 13 May 2015, 21:09 (Ref:3537239)

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Originally Posted by batmobile

The pink gravel strip is not wide and not very thick. It would have to be quicly compressed. But I'm not sure it's a good idea to have spread the gravel just before the race ??

Agree.
However the worst dust will be gone within a few laps.
Usually when we use cat/kitty litter on a racetrack the dust will be gone when approx. 50 cars has driven over it. The gravel will still be there, but the dust will be gone.

Michel Vaillant · 14 May 2015, 10:11 (Ref:3537352)

Yesterday, i drove a short time on the side with pink gravels, with my own car

at normal speed (90 kph about). The road holding is very unstable ! If i was in a LMP, i would not try !!

**batmobile** · 15 May 2015, 18:48 (Ref:3537821)

Taking advantage of my visit to the moto GP here is an update of the Porsche building:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/1...22742228712026
https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/1...22742228712026

**Aysedasi** · 15 May 2015, 21:14 (Ref:3537851)

Thanks Eric

GT6 · 16 May 2015, 06:35 (Ref:3537941)

Yes cheers Eric, hope you enjoy the motoGP

**batmobile** · 16 May 2015, 07:51 (Ref:3537955)

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Originally Posted by GT6

Yes cheers Eric, hope you enjoy the motoGP

Amazing what they can on two wheels.....!!!

GT6 · 16 May 2015, 08:00 (Ref:3537958)

As i do every year i will be watching the GP on the TV and the excitement of being there in a few weeks starts to sink in, not long now. I try to pay attention as the bikes come out from the dunlop bridge to see how my campsite is looking.

**batmobile** · 16 May 2015, 14:21 (Ref:3538058)

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Originally Posted by GT6

As i do every year i will be watching the GP on the TV and the excitement of being there in a few weeks starts to sink in, not long now. I try to pay attention as the bikes come out from the dunlop bridge to see how my campsite is looking.

It's looking as usual Simon.

GT6 · 16 May 2015, 14:52 (Ref:3538072)

Cheers Eric, As long as the bikers don't set fire to the grass we should be OK

Michel Vaillant · 19 May 2015, 15:34 (Ref:3539350)

This afternoon i saw geometers in the public area of Mulsanne curve, near the hangar of technical control...

**batmobile** · 25 May 2015, 21:00 (Ref:3541188)

CTD · 25 May 2015, 21:07 (Ref:3541194)

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Originally Posted by batmobile

Thank you!

I think "Rumble strip" is a better word than "vibrator" Eric

**batmobile** · 25 May 2015, 21:15 (Ref:3541196)

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Originally Posted by CTD

Thank you!

I think "Rumble strip" is a better word than "vibrator" Eric

Thank you Mathias I was looking for the translation but I was not sure.

whitemr2 · 26 May 2015, 09:35 (Ref:3541322)

The Porsche centre is even bigger as I was expecting. Can't wait to visit it. It also might be the reason Audi is expending its centre at Dunlop. Hope it has the vieuwing balconie!!! again.

Mike E · 26 May 2015, 10:05 (Ref:3541331)

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Originally Posted by batmobile

The rumble strip at Arnage and astroturf at Indy are acknowledgments by the ACO that the track has effectively been widened at these locations, and they expect the drivers to use the extra track width. They may be getting rather close to that outer barrier at Arnage during qualy...

Mal · 26 May 2015, 10:47 (Ref:3541349)

Unless they have better glue than Silverstone, I cant see the astroturf lasting long

Simmi · 30 May 2015, 13:46 (Ref:3542856)

Some good pictures from the drivers as they go on their track reccys ahead of test day. Jann Mardenborough particularly unhappy with Porsche Curves changes.

A metre or so wider here down the hill than in 2014 I'd say

Deleted · 30 May 2015, 13:57 (Ref:3542863)

Karun Chandhok will be another unhappy as he's been satisfied with Sarthe in the past not being modernized asphaltdrome, like Spa and like have become.

The excitement of Curves is now gone, no more penalty for not respecting it. Go however you want!

After I saw the moderately widened Dunlop Esses last year, this further extension comes as no surprise.

Pink gravel on Indy doesn't seem very evenly placed. But at least it's there. Anyway it's the most smoothing pic of those.

Here's the Mardenborough dissatisfaction
https://twitter.com/Jannthaman/statu...25430024359936

ederss7 · 31 May 2015, 10:46 (Ref:3543270)

I guess the second left hander at the Porsche curves is going to be an easy flat because there isn't anything else to fear after it. The grass Hasn't had nothing to do with the crashes there.

cokata · 31 May 2015, 11:32 (Ref:3543290)

Nissan just did a periscope lap, and to be honest it is not as bad as i thought. There is still loads of grass on the Porsche curves, and the line trough there would not be too different. Overall i would say 2 second per lap improvement will come from the changes. Sub 3:15 lap looks very likely

wewantourdarbyback · 2 Jun 2015, 12:56 (Ref:3544182)

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Originally Posted by Chiana

no more penalty for not respecting it. Go however you want!

Other than the solid barriers.

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