[LM24] Le Mans 2023 Le Mans Entries (Closed)

[canaglia]

ok, or to better say, let's wait how things will evolve in 2024 but In general, I think you're misinterpreting this sentence:

" Any international sports car program would need to get the green-light from Japan, as was the case with HPD’s most recent effort in the FIA World Endurance Championship in 2012-13 with the HPD ARX-03c LMP1 car."


to me you're just reading: "HPD teams go to LM if HPD decides they go to LM"

that's not that simple. I mean, of course japanese HQ honda is the one that decides which racing/sport programs green-light because each involved company like italian JAS (wtcc, nsx gt3) jap/spanish repsol HRC (motoGP) american HPD (indy and IMSA) japanese HRC (superGT, superformula) jap/UK mugen (? I actually don't know if mugen UK is still involved in something like btcc) receive the budget from japanese HQ honda. So, speaking about IMSA and arx program, is clear that is HQ honda the one that decided to greenlight the acura lmdh program.
But arx teams, as far I remember never got any aut aut from HPD in the past... the only absolute thing is that it's HPD to pick teams and not the reverse, but racing programs it's up to the teams financial possibilities... back in 2011-2013 period, highcroft racing was HPD ALMS team, they received the new arx-01e but they had to retire just after sebring because they had no budget and HPD didn't throw them a penny. I recall JRM 2012 WEC program was some kind of last minute decided program probably backed mainly by brabham and chandock. Picket racing was the HPD team in 2012-2013 ALMS and more than once they expressed interest on running at LM but they never had enough budget and of course never received any flight ticket from HPD.
I think is the same for actual msr and wtr teams, I meah the matter is simple..
HPD: do you want to go to LM?
wtr/msr: yes
HPD: good, nothing against, save some money, bye.

This time HPD ruled out a 2023 LM in advance... won't be surprised if this is because of shortage of supply and spare parts for the first season. But in any case, it's all about 2024.

[broadrun96]

Originally Posted by canaglia

ok, or to better say, let's wait how things will evolve in 2024 but In general, I think you're misinterpreting this sentence:

" Any international sports car program would need to get the green-light from Japan, as was the case with HPD’s most recent effort in the FIA World Endurance Championship in 2012-13 with the HPD ARX-03c LMP1 car."


to me you're just reading: "HPD teams go to LM if HPD decides they go to LM"

that's not that simple. I mean, of course japanese HQ honda is the one that decides which racing/sport programs green-light because each involved company like italian JAS (wtcc, nsx gt3) jap/spanish repsol HRC (motoGP) american HPD (indy and IMSA) japanese HRC (superGT, superformula) jap/UK mugen (? I actually don't know if mugen UK is still involved in something like btcc) receive the budget from japanese HQ honda. So, speaking about IMSA and arx program, is clear that is HQ honda the one that decided to greenlight the acura lmdh program.
But arx teams, as far I remember never got any aut aut from HPD in the past... the only absolute thing is that it's HPD to pick teams and not the reverse, but racing programs it's up to the teams financial possibilities... back in 2011-2013 period, highcroft racing was HPD ALMS team, they received the new arx-01e but they had to retire just after sebring because they had no budget and HPD didn't throw them a penny. I recall JRM 2012 WEC program was some kind of last minute decided program probably backed mainly by brabham and chandock. Picket racing was the HPD team in 2012-2013 ALMS and more than once they expressed interest on running at LM but they never had enough budget and of course never received any flight ticket from HPD.
I think is the same for actual msr and wtr teams, I meah the matter is simple..
HPD: do you want to go to LM?
wtr/msr: yes
HPD: good, nothing against, save some money, bye.

This time HPD ruled out a 2023 LM in advance... won't be surprised if this is because of shortage of supply and spare parts for the first season. But in any case, it's all about 2024.

That's LITERALLY what they wrote and EXACTLY what both teams said. It is NOT NOT NOT their decision, Honda in Japan must authorize the entries. HPD ONLY covers IMSA racing and would rely on Honda main office to run the cars in WEC or LM if they are interested. MSR and WTR ONLY have deals for support in IMSA as they have made plainly clear, I recommend reading the words written instead of poorly interpreting a story to read what you want like a 9th grader English teacher would. They were wrong then and you are now.

[canaglia]

Originally Posted by broadrun96

That's LITERALLY what they wrote and EXACTLY what both teams said. It is NOT NOT NOT their decision, Honda in Japan must authorize the entries. HPD ONLY covers IMSA racing and would rely on Honda main office to run the cars in WEC or LM if they are interested. MSR and WTR ONLY have deals for support in IMSA as they have made plainly clear, I recommend reading the words written instead of poorly interpreting a story to read what you want like a 9th grader English teacher would. They were wrong then and you are now.

Look, I probably should just keep on ignoring you but since I've noticed that my sarcastic reply to your umpteenth provocations was deleted, the only thing I can conclude is that this kind of abusive and hostile behaviour is more tolerated. I can't and actually don't want to understand what's your point of be so hostile, but if you're enjoying doing that, I'm actually too old for this. But at the same time I can't tolerate someone may have this kind of tone toward me.
There are more polite ways to express your disagreement without involving personal attacks or provocations, so I'm officially asking you to have a polite and respectful tone towards me (and in general towards everyone). Don't get me wrong, it's ok to attack my argumentations if you think I'm wrong, debate is the core of a discussion afterall, but just keep in mind you're among civilzed people not animals.
That's my request and hope you and mods may read this post of mine, to aknowledge my good will to end the matter in friendly terms.
Peace and Respect.

[tomcug]

Originally Posted by broadrun96

I recommend reading the words written instead of poorly interpreting a story to read what you want like a 9th grader English teacher would. They were wrong then and you are now.

Regardless of who's right and wrong here, you're way too much in attack mode. Also tons of caps lock doesn't help either.

[kartman24]

Anyone have an anticipated date in July that the Ferrari will break cover for testing? For me this is the most eagerly awaited of the Hypercars.