ALMS 2011 Discussion - Page 11

FordCosworthPanoz · 27 Aug 2010, 00:55 (Ref:2750867)

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Originally Posted by Jonerz

Really? I've heard that the Dyson DP program is in addition to their ALMS program. Additionally, Rob and Chris have been fairly vocal in their support of the ALMS and their desires to be in the series for a long time to come.

Chris

I agree, I've also heard from pretty reliable sources that they will do both. We will have to see next year, I wouldn't count your chickens that they are done. We will have to see...

**joeb** · 27 Aug 2010, 01:02 (Ref:2750869)

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Originally Posted by FordCosworthPanoz

I agree, I've also heard from pretty reliable sources that they will do both. We will have to see next year, I wouldn't count your chickens that they are done. We will have to see...

and also, I wouldn't count your chicken(eggs) with salmonella

WMUCarGuy · 27 Aug 2010, 01:04 (Ref:2750870)

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Originally Posted by Jonerz

Really? I've heard that the Dyson DP program is in addition to their ALMS program. Additionally, Rob and Chris have been fairly vocal in their support of the ALMS and their desires to be in the series for a long time to come.

Chris

Yea, but if there are sponsors paying for Grand Am, but none in the ALMS, they go where the funding is.

fieldodreams79 · 27 Aug 2010, 02:15 (Ref:2750875)

Dyson had obvisously cut their budget this year by not running a second car and what a better way to cut the budget even more and still race in Prototypes than campaign a DP.

I hate it. Always been a Dyson fan, and hate they are "defecting". Better than closing their doors, I guess.

rabbit_racer · 27 Aug 2010, 02:17 (Ref:2750877)

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Originally Posted by WMUCarGuy

Yea, but if there are sponsors paying for Grand Am, but none in the ALMS, they go where the funding is.

True, but if they are separate funding lines basically for "two" teams then yeah I could see them running both ALMS and a prototurtle.

Chalk this one up to a we'll wait and see.

I almost have blinder like focus on the situation w/GTC. Can only hope for the best, but like I said before ALMS I think is going to go fairly conservative possibly in what they will allow in there. Feasibly not a wise move given all the sabre rattling going on about Grand-Am and FIA GT3.

**joeb** · 27 Aug 2010, 02:20 (Ref:2750879)

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Originally Posted by WMUCarGuy

Yea, but if there are sponsors paying for Grand Am, but none in the ALMS, they go where the funding is.

It was my understanding that the sponsors were paying for certain drivers in GrandAm, and not for Chris and Guy to have a drive. So if they want to keep driving I'm guessing ALMS is not off of the table. Maybe Dyson parts ways with Mazda, maybe not, but I like the odds of them staying in ALMS.

WMUCarGuy · 27 Aug 2010, 02:28 (Ref:2750882)

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Originally Posted by joeb

It was my understanding that the sponsors were paying for certain drivers in GrandAm, and not for Chris and Guy to have a drive. So if they want to keep driving I'm guessing ALMS is not off of the table. Maybe Dyson parts ways with Mazda, maybe not, but I like the odds of them staying in ALMS.

It was made pretty specific to me that the ALMS campaign is just over, and that's it. I hope my sources is wrong, but he's usually pretty on his game.

dj4monie · 27 Aug 2010, 11:13 (Ref:2751013)

What I believe is that Dyson will become the De-Facto Lola Team in America. Carl Haas is in poor health these days and I'm not sure if he's still the US importer of Lola Cars.

The deal is for one race this season in Proto-Auto (Lola) Ford DP. Unsure about 2011 save for maybe running Daytona likely and maybe select races. But in an interview with Gordon Kirby found on in this elsewhere on this thread explained that Pappa Dyson continues to support the ALMS.

The only reason for the cut back to one car this season is because the word on sponsorship came lap from BP and also until the very last minute Atlantics were scheduled to run. It was too late for Mazda to allocate more budget to run the 2nd car this season.

HORNDAWG · 31 Aug 2010, 06:19 (Ref:2752555)

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Originally Posted by Jonerz

Really? I've heard that the Dyson DP program is in addition to their ALMS program. Additionally, Rob and Chris have been fairly vocal in their support of the ALMS and their desires to be in the series for a long time to come.

Chris

Yes, from Chris Dyson on the subject of the DP.

Quote:

"We have the facility and the staff to accommodate this program to run in parallel to our primary ALMS effort.”

Imagine that.

L.P.

Fogelhund · 31 Aug 2010, 10:31 (Ref:2752652)

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Originally Posted by dj4monie

What I believe is that Dyson will become the De-Facto Lola Team in America. Carl Haas is in poor health these days and I'm not sure if he's still the US importer of Lola Cars.
.

Yes, Haas racing is still Lola.

**joeb** · 31 Aug 2010, 13:22 (Ref:2752708)

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Originally Posted by HORNDAWG

Yes, from Chris Dyson on the subject of the DP.

Imagine that.

L.P.

That is a relief to hear. But what Chris didn't say was what package they will run in the ALMS next season. They have two Lola chassis, so I think that is set, but will they continue with the MZR, something new from AER, or the new Roush-Yates Ford?

ubrben · 31 Aug 2010, 13:44 (Ref:2752718)

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Originally Posted by WMUCarGuy

I'm hearing from a reliable source that the Dyson to GARRA next year rumors are true, and their ALMS campaign will sadly be coming to an end following Petit Le Mans.

Definitely sucks to lose them, but they've been great over the years and I'm glad I'll be able to see them one last time next month!

I've got a really good source indicating they'll be back in ALMS next year.

Ben

NightStalk3r · 31 Aug 2010, 14:55 (Ref:2752733)

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Originally Posted by joeb

That is a relief to hear. But what Chris didn't say was what package they will run in the ALMS next season. They have two Lola chassis, so I think that is set, but will they continue with the MZR, something new from AER, or the new Roush-Yates Ford?

Although Mazda does bring some money to the programme i still think they would be stupid to stick with the Mazda or anything from AER for the matter, i think the Lola Roush-Yates Ford is the most probable package if Dyson stick around.

HORNDAWG · 31 Aug 2010, 15:14 (Ref:2752746)

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Originally Posted by NightStalk3r

Although Mazda does bring some money to the programme i still think they would be stupid to stick with the Mazda or anything from AER for the matter, i think the Lola Roush-Yates Ford is the most probable package if Dyson stick around.

Well, up to a couple a three races ago that was clearly the case. But recently the engine has been pretty right on. The ultimate test/deciding factor for me would be at Petit as to make the decision, if it is even on the table.

L.P.

ubrben · 31 Aug 2010, 16:03 (Ref:2752770)

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Originally Posted by HORNDAWG

Well, up to a couple a three races ago that was clearly the case. But recently the engine has been pretty right on. The ultimate test/deciding factor for me would be at Petit as to make the decision, if it is even on the table.

L.P.

Key issue as I understand it is what happens to the RS Spyder, Cytosport want to race it, but the tub won't pass LMP1 impact tests. Once ALMS decide whether they can run a lot more will shake out.

Ben

**joeb** · 31 Aug 2010, 16:19 (Ref:2752778)

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Originally Posted by ubrben

Key issue as I understand it is what happens to the RS Spyder, Cytosport want to race it, but the tub won't pass LMP1 impact tests. Once ALMS decide whether they can run a lot more will shake out.

Ben

I don't see the connection between Dyson's future engine choices and the eligibility of the RS Spyder?

JAG · 31 Aug 2010, 16:40 (Ref:2752792)

Are Roush engines always badged as Fords and would the P1/P2 engine have Ford support/approval.

Finally do Roush have facilities or a partner in Europe?

HORNDAWG · 31 Aug 2010, 16:55 (Ref:2752800)

Roush Yates Engines is a named, and defacto, Ford Performance arm in several programs. The program has approval, support (monies etc..) I am not so sure about.

I would magine that they would, if nothing else, be ran out of Ford Europe shops (Cologne, Genk or Southhampton). (?)

L.P.

HJJ · 31 Aug 2010, 22:04 (Ref:2752931)

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Originally Posted by JAG

Are Roush engines always badged as Fords and would the P1/P2 engine have Ford support/approval.

Finally do Roush have facilities or a partner in Europe?

The Matech Ford GT's have R/Y power.

HJJ · 31 Aug 2010, 22:08 (Ref:2752933)

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Originally Posted by Fogelhund

Yes, Haas racing is still Lola.

Haas is; elan, Van Diemen, Oreca, Hewland, but not Lola. They were talking to Lola when they were bidding for the Indycar contact.

They also have a truck in Europe to support the Superleague cars (DP-09's).

Fogelhund · 31 Aug 2010, 22:25 (Ref:2752940)

I wonder why I say Lola parts in the Haas trailer this weekend then???

HJJ · 31 Aug 2010, 22:33 (Ref:2752946)

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Originally Posted by Fogelhund

I wonder why I say Lola parts in the Haas trailer this weekend then???

Say or saw?

WMUCarGuy · 1 Sep 2010, 01:02 (Ref:2752966)

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Originally Posted by HJJ

Haas is; elan, Van Diemen, Oreca, Hewland, but not Lola. They were talking to Lola when they were bidding for the Indycar contact.

They also have a truck in Europe to support the Superleague cars (DP-09's).

Haas has been the North American importer for Lola for years.

Fogelhund · 1 Sep 2010, 01:05 (Ref:2752968)

saw

rabbit_racer · 1 Sep 2010, 15:02 (Ref:2753214)

Baltimore race should be annouced at 12 today. Couple of Ferrari's there, etc. for the annoucement.

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