The 'Credit Crunch' and the Future of Club Motor Sport

[Tim Falce]

Originally Posted by Robert Morris

only if your radio gets Radio Luxumburge or you to young to remember that?

Far too young to remember radio Luxemburge but old enough to remember radio Luxembourg, ah the joys of MW.

[Peter Mallett]

The joys of.................................................................................................. ...... were always highlighted by t................................................................................................ motorways and indeed Luxembur............................................................................................ ............................... and went................................................................................................ ........................ and you cou..............................................................................

[MGDavid]

Originally Posted by Peter Mallett

The joys of.................................................................................................. ...... were always highlighted by t................................................................................................ motorways and indeed Luxembur............................................................................................ ............................... and went................................................................................................ ........................ and you cou..............................................................................

Brilliant, reminds me of the radio room scene in Where Eagles Dare

[Tim Falce]

It's still going and they seem to have the original play list................unless someone dug some old tapes out. Here

[Al Weyman]

So none of you remember the Cats Whisker sets then, blimey I must be getting old!

[Robert Morris]

i thought the cats whiskers was a crystal set

[Eric Falce]

Originally Posted by Al Weyman

So none of you remember the Cats Whisker sets then, blimey I must be getting old!

Nope,dont remember them,anyway,brother Frankd had a delux set with proper earphones he bought from Army and Navy I think in Brixton.

[Peter Mallett]

Originally Posted by Robert Morris

i thought the cats whiskers was a crystal set

I thought it was a nightclub in Tooting.

[Al Weyman]

Yeah I am remembering now it was a crystal set and I think you could solder in a transistor powered by a little battery that improved the performance.

[djinvicta]

Wow!! Powered by batteries? Sounds rude to me, perhaps its age..

[Chris Y]

Honestly you lot. I turn my back for 5 minutes and you're off on one about radios - back on topic!

[Al Weyman]

Well we will have to have a cheap hobby when the 'depression' (now reclassified) really bites in Chris and anyhow if the depression does'nt get us look at the Croft post as it seems others are more intent on stopping us persuing the sport we all love.

[Al Weyman]

BTW I should prehaps add membership and registration for CTCRC Pre 66 races is just £25 which in the historic scene must be a bargain.

[Rod Birley]

Presumably plus BARC membership as well Al.

[Peter Mallett]

Yep.

[Al Weyman]

Yes but you still get to eat the same amount of burgers at the club free barbies as everyone else!

[Peter Mallett]

So that makes it around £200 for annual membership then?

[Al Weyman]

For the full membership unfortunately yes but for full Pre-66's about £140 or £25 for a taster of three rounds for all championships and that includes the BARC fee. The BARC fee incidently does not end at the the end of the calender year as the CTCRC does so you generally off set it.

[Moosehead]

£25 for a taster of three rounds for all championships and that includes the BARC fee.

So for £25 I can do 3 rounds of say the Classic Thunder?? Obviously plus the race entry fee!

[Al Weyman]

Yes and most welcome you would be Wayne.

[phansa88]

Does it have to be pre 66 ?

oh well prehaps i can get my daughter to let me use her 1955 100e anglia
now were do i get a roll cage for it emmm

[Peter Mallett]

Originally Posted by Al Weyman

For the full membership unfortunately yes but for full Pre-66's about £140 or £25 for a taster of three rounds for all championships and that includes the BARC fee. The BARC fee incidently does not end at the the end of the calender year as the CTCRC does so you generally off set it.

I'm a member of the BARC *salutes the flag* but I'm buggered if I can remember how much it costs. However I'm sure its more than £140.00. Then if you add your CTCRC membership it comes up to around the £230.00 mark.

Not suggesting this is expensive (necessary costs, are what they are) but I do think we need to be careful how we diseminate info.

FWIW, full membership of the CTCRC is £85.00 see http://classictouringcars.com/phpBB3...hp?f=31&t=1254 to download the form. You will still need BARC membership. On that form is Al's Pre 66 membership of £25.00.

As a saloon/touring car racing club, you can't fault them.

As I've said, due to logistics its more cost effective for me to run less events for longer track time so I run with Masters Top Hat.

I've got the opportunity of four 45mins races (Snett, Brands, Combe and Mallory Park) at £450 each plus a 1 hour at Spa Entry - fee unknown. I don't need to be a member of the BARC or any other club and my registration fee is £195.00.

[Al Weyman]

It was a last year £105 Peter now £110 http://www.barc.net/membership/types_of_membership.php.

As some of our meetings are double headers and you can have a 2nd race in Pre-93s for £100 and a 3rd for £75 and I think even less for a 4th you can come and have a weekend racing with us and probably get more or as much for your £450 plus if you flunk one race or get a problem you will have other bites at the cherry, get you long distance race wrong or have a silly problem and you have blown a lot of money for nothing, I know which I prefer!

[Peter Mallett]

Yes, Al but the cost per se, isn't an issue and I wish people would drop it. If you want to race you race no matter what the cost. If you can't afford it the car stays in the garage. That's the credit crunch bit.

So, for what I expect to spend this year (it will cost me more) I'll get around 12 hours of practice and racing. 8 of them in my car and the rest in another.

Off topic comment alert I have to type this or my brain will explode! BTW, I may have a commission for you. Remind me again what format do you want pictures? Thanks for reading, you've been a wonderful audience. Don't forget to try the veal and tip your waitress. We now return you to the topic

[CortinaCrew]

Originally Posted by Peter Mallett

Not suggesting this is expensive (necessary costs, are what they are) but I do think we need to be careful how we diseminate info.

From the few months I've been perusing this forum I have noticed "Our Al" can be a little, er, elastic, with some of his statements and figures.

He's selling a club though, and is not alone in doing that in here. As grids diminish, the louder this will get across the board.

However, I can't remember who it was, but there was a quote some years ago (the original Mr Foulston?) who said crowds are interested in starts and finishes only. I tend to agree, the longer distance races where excitement is held to the end are rare indeed..