LM24 Race Le Mans 2020 - Race Week Thread - Page 38

Simmi · 20 Sep 2020, 09:23 (Ref:4004777)

Doesn't Dumas owe us a stop soon? Still 3 hours left not 30mins. Properly mental.

Lasse · 20 Sep 2020, 09:23 (Ref:4004778)

How well are Menezes selling himself to a factory seat in the future?

Gingers4Justice · 20 Sep 2020, 09:24 (Ref:4004779)

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Originally Posted by Lasse

If Menezes is not follwing team orders and holding a 2 sec gap, do you expect Dumas to let him by without a fight?

What I meant is, why would they not instruct Dumas to let the faster car through? If the #8 hits trouble, every last second for the faster Rebellion will count. They also have the podium at risk by giving up track position so timidly to the #7, which the #1 was faster than before it was artificially stacked behind its teammate.

I just can't work out the purpose of this. There's low-risk, and then there's this...

**Aysedasi** · 20 Sep 2020, 09:24 (Ref:4004780)

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Originally Posted by Gingers4Justice

Not going down as a classic, is it?

Maybe not a classic, but for me, significantly more interesting than for several years...

Gingers4Justice · 20 Sep 2020, 09:26 (Ref:4004781)

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Originally Posted by Aysedasi

Maybe not a classic, but for me, significantly more interesting than for several years...

Nice to hear some positivity! I think last year was better but it certainly trumps 2018.

Lasse · 20 Sep 2020, 09:26 (Ref:4004782)

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Originally Posted by Gingers4Justice

What I meant is, why would they not instruct Dumas to let the faster car through? If the #8 hits trouble, every last second for the faster Rebellion will count. They also have the podium at risk by giving up track position so timidly to the #7, which the #1 was faster than before it was artificially stacked behind its teammate.

I just can't work out the purpose of this. There's low-risk, and then there's this...

Copy, totally agree! The #1 have been clearly the quicker car all through. I just hate hearing a professional driver being a whiner when everything is not about him. Sportcar racing is a team sport.

Tique · 20 Sep 2020, 09:27 (Ref:4004783)

And Gustovo is arguing on the radio in order to pass 2nd

Simmi · 20 Sep 2020, 09:27 (Ref:4004784)

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Originally Posted by Aysedasi

Maybe not a classic, but for me, significantly more interesting than for several years...

Yeah it's still Le Mans and always stuff to enjoy. In truth we've had some pretty poor editions in recent years. These new regs can't come soon enough.

These P1s will be remembered so fondly for their speed but I'd rather see some battles.

Mike E · 20 Sep 2020, 09:28 (Ref:4004785)

Slightly off piste, but speaking of Rebellion, has Bart said what he is up to next year?

Gingers4Justice · 20 Sep 2020, 09:28 (Ref:4004786)

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Originally Posted by Lasse

Copy, totally agree! The #1 have been clearly the quicker car all through. I just hate hearing a professional driver being a whiner when everything is not about him. Sportcar racing is a team sport.

I agree. I'd like to think I'd be a team player in this circumstance but it must be equally frustrating to be ordered to shoot yourself in the foot, seemingly without good reason.

kobefly · 20 Sep 2020, 09:29 (Ref:4004788)

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Originally Posted by Lasse

I only noticed it on the GTE Ferraris, sometimes after refueling they add something with a small bottle, what is it?

I saw Toyota doing that once not too long before hitting problems with #7.

**Aysedasi** · 20 Sep 2020, 09:30 (Ref:4004789)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gingers4Justice

What I meant is, why would they not instruct Dumas to let the faster car through? If the #8 hits trouble, every last second for the faster Rebellion will count. They also have the podium at risk by giving up track position so timidly to the #7, which the #1 was faster than before it was artificially stacked behind its teammate.

I just can't work out the purpose of this. There's low-risk, and then there's this...

There is absolutely no point in Rebellion going 'no risk'. They're out after this race. They should be running gonads-out and if they break, they break and we celebrate the fact that they really tried and they went out in a blaze of glory. Finishing 2nd and 3rd would be laudable, but fighting tooth and nail in case the other Toyota has a problem would be so much better.

crooky · 20 Sep 2020, 09:31 (Ref:4004790)

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Originally Posted by Gingers4Justice

What I meant is, why would they not instruct Dumas to let the faster car through? If the #8 hits trouble, every last second for the faster Rebellion will count. They also have the podium at risk by giving up track position so timidly to the #7, which the #1 was faster than before it was artificially stacked behind its teammate.

I just can't work out the purpose of this. There's low-risk, and then there's this...

Absolutely. They've had a podium at the race before so now they've got an outside chance of a win they need to just go for broke.

When's the last time a privateer was this close to the front with 3 hours left? 2005 with the Pescarolo against the PlayStation Audi R8?

Hopefully the pit stops will put the #1 car in front.

**Aysedasi** · 20 Sep 2020, 09:32 (Ref:4004791)

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Originally Posted by Mike E

Slightly off piste, but speaking of Rebellion, has Bart said what he is up to next year?

I've not seen nor heard anything at all.

**Peter Mallett** · 20 Sep 2020, 09:32 (Ref:4004792)

As pointed out on RSL had they made an attempt it would have put a bit of pressure on Toyota.

**Aysedasi** · 20 Sep 2020, 09:32 (Ref:4004793)

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Originally Posted by crooky

Absolutely. They've had a podium at the race before so now they've got an outside chance of a win they need to just go for broke.

When's the last time a privateer was this close to the front with 3 hours left? 2005 with the Pescarolo against the PlayStation Audi R8?

Hopefully the pit stops will put the #1 car in front.

I think we're all on pretty much the same wavelength.

GT6 · 20 Sep 2020, 09:33 (Ref:4004794)

Must admit at the moment things are not exactly exciting, everyone waiting for something to happen

Gingers4Justice · 20 Sep 2020, 09:33 (Ref:4004795)

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Originally Posted by GT6

Must admit at the moment things are not exactly exciting, everyone waiting for something to happen

Agreed. I make it beer o'clock again.

Akrapovic · 20 Sep 2020, 09:35 (Ref:4004796)

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Originally Posted by Gingers4Justice

Agreed. I make it beer o'clock again.

I just had Pringles for breakfast. I am an unacceptable human being.

Gingers4Justice · 20 Sep 2020, 09:37 (Ref:4004798)

Quote:

Originally Posted by crooky

Absolutely. They've had a podium at the race before so now they've got an outside chance of a win they need to just go for broke.

When's the last time a privateer was this close to the front with 3 hours left? 2005 with the Pescarolo against the PlayStation Audi R8?

Hopefully the pit stops will put the #1 car in front.

I think last year was closer than we sometimes remember. Silliness and poor luck stopped SMP and Rebellion being in this position in '19.

I think you're correct, Pescarolo in '05 is probably the closest we've been to this (discounting privateer Audis or Pugs).

Pressure on the pitwall and in the cockpit for these small teams must be insane. 2005 was really Pescarolo's to lose, but they never had the air of calm and purpose that the Audis had.

Gingers4Justice · 20 Sep 2020, 09:39 (Ref:4004799)

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Originally Posted by Akrapovic

I just had Pringles for breakfast. I am an unacceptable human being.

If it makes you feel better, I got a McDonald's breakfast delivered. Got a sausage and egg McMuffin for my girlfriend in case she woke up. I decided after 25 minutes this wasn't going to happen so I ate her's too.

It's very difficult to consume this race while being an acceptable human being.

GT6 · 20 Sep 2020, 09:39 (Ref:4004800)

I you had been at lemans, breakfast on sunday is "what have we got left" sometimes bacpn/sausages but always eggs, cheese, baked beans bread past it's best huge amounts of coffee and fruit juice. Then start to clear the campsite and pack the cars ready to make a break for it after the race

**Peter Mallett** · 20 Sep 2020, 09:40 (Ref:4004802)

Rebellion have brake worries apparently.

**Aysedasi** · 20 Sep 2020, 09:41 (Ref:4004803)

I'd be more concerned if they had accelerator worries......

Lasse · 20 Sep 2020, 09:41 (Ref:4004804)

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Originally Posted by Gingers4Justice

I agree. I'd like to think I'd be a team player in this circumstance but it must be equally frustrating to be ordered to shoot yourself in the foot, seemingly without good reason.

But is Menezes thinking about the race long term or what he can se through his own visor?

Either way, the smart decision would be to let him through. But i am not sure Menezes is selling himself very well to other teams right now.

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