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Old 12 Nov 2003, 12:53 (Ref:780972)   #1
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The Good Old Days

I was speaking to an old friend of mine last night and during the conversation I remembered that when I first started marshalling, we lady pit marshals (there were loads of us in those days!) used to have an award called "Pit Lane Pet of the Day" which we used to embarrass drivers with. It was a scroll tied up with pink ribbon (couldn't get any orange) and a small teddy or something similar. We gave it to various drivers for all sorts of reasons (making us coffee was one very good reason). We got the idea from Silverstone where the lady marshals used to have a "Dish of the Day" award.

Anyone got any other fond memories of the "Good Old Days"?

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Old 12 Nov 2003, 18:14 (Ref:781266)   #2
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In today's PC society surely that is just asking for trouble....
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Old 12 Nov 2003, 18:40 (Ref:781287)   #3
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the pound club, a group of racers that used to pay a pound each time they ended up in the gravel, at the end of the season they had a **** up and prizes
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Old 12 Nov 2003, 19:02 (Ref:781304)   #4
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thats a pretty good idea...but how about this for another one....every time a driver goes into the gravel he/she has to pay 1 pound towards the end of season marshals raffle!
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Old 12 Nov 2003, 22:22 (Ref:781469)   #5
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Aah, the ggod old days. In the words of Innes Ireland(?) when sex was safe and motor racing was dangerous.

Best thing about the old days was tyres that slid around without going off. Never having to hear the worst words in motor racing "I was looking after my tyres".
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Formula 5000!

Thats it.

Formula 5000!
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Old 13 Nov 2003, 09:42 (Ref:781831)   #7
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Formula 5000!
Even better - F5000 at Mallory Park

Nearly a full grid
No runoff areas at Gerards or the Esses

Awesome!
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Old 13 Nov 2003, 10:45 (Ref:781887)   #8
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F3 at Cadwell and at Mallory.

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Old 13 Nov 2003, 11:19 (Ref:781904)   #9
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no zimmmerframes? lol
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Old 13 Nov 2003, 11:50 (Ref:781923)   #10
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Do you remember Guy Edwards putting his F5000 off at Gerards during a practice session, and insisting that you stop the session because his car was in a dangerous position.

I believe your reply was something to the effect - "Well you shouldn't have put it there in the first place!"


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Old 13 Nov 2003, 12:36 (Ref:781963)   #11
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lol...thats how it should be
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Old 13 Nov 2003, 12:39 (Ref:781970)   #12
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Do you remember Guy Edwards putting his F5000 off at Gerards during a practice session, and insisting that you stop the session because his car was in a dangerous position.

I believe your reply was something to the effect - "Well you shouldn't have put it there in the first place!"


Vividly. I was much politer the first time of asking. When he "demanded" that he use the post telephone to tell the Clerk of the Course, I said that I would use my telephone to say that Guy insisted the session was stopped. I did so if only because I knew what Don Truman's response would be.

Guy shut up when I passed back Don's response. I suspect the silicon censor might not let the response through, but "Tell him to off" would certainly convey the right impression.

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Old 13 Nov 2003, 12:49 (Ref:781985)   #13
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Guy shut up when I passed back Don's response. I suspect the silicon censor might not let the response through, but "Tell him to off" would certainly convey the right impression.
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Oh I bet the look on his face was wonderful at that comment!
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Old 13 Nov 2003, 13:30 (Ref:782041)   #14
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great idea that! bring it back! I'm looking forward to all you gifts for me....
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The run off at the Esses used to be less than it is now!?
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The run off at the Esses used to be less than it is now!?
Loads. Take a straight-ish line from just after the in post to after the Esses post itself. One layer of tyres eventually and no gravel.

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YES...the great days of F5000 / International F2 / F.Atlantic and F3 at Mallory. The hairpin had no run-off either in those days. The armco lined the edge of the track up there.
I certainly remember the Silverstone 'Dish of the Day' thing as I had the job of doing pen and ink drawings of the drivers cars that were presented to each 'dish' at the end of each season! Rita Dickens and Val Adaway were behind those awards back then. Rita's husband Les was caretaker - groundsman at Silverstone for many years and their son Alf still races in Clubmans sports.
I had not seen Val Adaway for ages until about a week ago. By coincedence, she and husband Rob (who was also a marshal ) were sitting right infront of us at a concert at the Birmingham NEC. They are not involved with Motorsport anymore.
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The run off at the Esses used to be less than it is now!?
When I first started Marshalling, the entire circuit only had about 15-20 feet of runoff around the entire outside. Esses and Gerards included, and as Jim states - no graveltraps/Tyres at all.

Also some of the Flagpoints/Observers posts were located at unprotected breezeblock structures on the INSIDE of the circuit. Notably Gerards out and halfway down Stebbe. There was also a particularly "iffy" post immediately after the exit to the Pits on the inside of the Circuit (until Ulf Norinder? took himself and a few marshals out at a F5000 meeting)

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Here is an old thread with lots of old photos of Mallory back then. You can clearly see how little run-off there was around the circuit. There are quite a few photos so patience is required as they load - but worth the wait!
http://tentenths.com/forum/showthrea...t=mallory+park
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Old 13 Nov 2003, 16:52 (Ref:782199)   #20
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nice pix....ive driven it on gpl...love the old circuits....looks alot like cadwell....maybe its why i like cadwell so much...nice track with no horrible gravel
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Old 14 Nov 2003, 10:40 (Ref:783015)   #22
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Your all sounding pretty sad, so it's only right that another sad old git joins in.
I have a photo at home of me rounding Druids at Brands on a sidecar with the sleepers ( before armco) almost at the edge of the track and the oil flag nailed permenantly to the sleepers.
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Oh Dear Bob,
This is your fault.
I was going to stay out of this, but how about Brands before druids? Bike races run anti clockwise with cars clockwise at the same meeting. Picking bluebells in the woods behind South Bank. Percy Dalton's peanut concession.
Graham Hill and Colin Chapman in two or three races a day. Stirling Moss's 21st Birthday celebration on the top straight.
Great days, just a shame I can't remember what happened yesterday!
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Old 14 Nov 2003, 12:28 (Ref:783117)   #24
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You've beaten me John, even I don't go back that far.
First memory of Brands is Derek Minter on a Manx Norton. Going the same way round the circuit as now.
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Who was Percy Dalton and what did his peanut concession have to do with motor sport?
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