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Ford STILL testing engine specs for ‘24
It’s not like there’s a race meeting soon, or that some teams are eating their first test day without knowing what the final package will be |
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I don't think the engine thing is as big as they want to make out. We saw a number of drag races last season where engine looked very even. The Fords even pulling a gap at times. The Payne car and others were pulling some good top speed at Bathurst. Even a couple of clicks faster down the shoot than some of the top Chevs at times. Didn't Ford win the last four racing in the season? Must have had enough engine to do that. Maybe the two are not100% the same, they can't be that far away.
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Has DJR now made the Ford engines too good???
https://speedcafe.com/fords-big-supercars-engine-omen/ |
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Erebus Buys Laser Scanner
These are common in NASCAR teams… most Cup car squads have one now. Same one the NASCAR scrutineers use. Question is… why doesn’t V8Supercar have one? To absolutely measure every surface of the chassis and shoe compliance or variance to homologation… Imagine misaligning panels to make a car slower in a straight line for example… the laser machine should pick something like that up.. |
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Supercars has been using lasers to check that cars comply for 20 odd years, may well have either the same tool as Erebus or something very like it. |
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They can have all the fancy tech that they want, somebody still has to drive it....
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Thank you, Mr bluesport for keeping us all up to date with the latest news hot off the press. Looks like stuff that should have been being done before Race 1 2023. Better late than never. A step up for the series all the same. Tim looks to be enjoying his new role also.
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Yes, it's good to see Tim relishing his new role and also that more can now be done when it comes to testing parity. |
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Maybe the wind tunnel testing and dyno work could have been done offshore in 2022. Factored into the Gen3 build and parity program from when it was still just on paper.
I know it was deemed too expensive but then it wasn't. Supercars was found out in 2019 and then again in 2023. They better be in front of the ball next time. Being behind the ball time and time again costs more than just their all important bottom line. |
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According to the linked article, it is believed that longer shift cuts will be used on the Chev, however, this article from V8 Sleuth quotes Tim Edwards, saying that shift cuts won't be used to paritise engine performance this weekend - appears that the Speedcafe article may have been wrong.
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Supercars Ops Manual updated - according to this article it now uses the same wording as the Teams' Contracts on Parity.
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Short version is that there's very little difference in the engine curves and according to Tim Edwards, the torque sensor work done so far is showing only v-e-r-y small differences. Once they've done some more of that & of course the transient dyno runs, we should be at a point of tech parity and then we'll know that any difference in performance on track is down to team/driver and how good a job they're doing at that track on that day - will be good. |
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This is the part you can't illustrate with points you can measure. 888 has always built cars that other people could go fast in and even beat 888. DJR never has, and it got a lot worse during the Penske era. I think Supercars has actually stepped in to try to solve issues like the pitch sensitivity but this is showing up the depth of talent at DJR not being the same as 888. |
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Another point which I think is very relevant. Jeremy Moore rejoined 888 just in time to develop the Camaro after a stint in Germany where he was responsible for developing the 911 GT3. |
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