Jerez testing - updated 11/05/02

f1_carzy · 10 Feb 2005, 17:15 (Ref:1222139)

http://www.pitpass.com/fes_php/pitpa...s_art_id=23478

Alonso has set a good pace;

Ferrari seem to be laclustre, but RB says "not to worry"

Massa still on top, JV still at the bottom (still trying set-up I guess

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bigjon · 10 Feb 2005, 17:27 (Ref:1222153)

sato has today crashed again - twice in two days - ok it might be the car at fault, but he still seems not to have done much other than crash, be crashed into or blow up engines since he's been in F1!

Kicking-back · 10 Feb 2005, 17:32 (Ref:1222156)

Sato wasn't at Jerez today, bigjon.

He did crash on Tuesday and Wednesday, but the rest of your post suggests you don't watch F1 very closely.

maximus · 10 Feb 2005, 17:43 (Ref:1222160)

Yep I agree Kicking-back.

I know it doesn't mean much, but Webber was much faster than Heidfeld today, which was interesting. Better showing for BAR with Button too.

f1_carzy · 10 Feb 2005, 18:03 (Ref:1222182)

Button crashed today...damaged the BARs nose; Ralfie also strayed into the gravel...thanks to the tyre wall...his car survived...

Everyone is too quiet abt the Bridgestone runners...something fishy???

Marbot · 10 Feb 2005, 18:37 (Ref:1222221)

Quote:

Originally Posted by f1_carzy

Everyone is too quiet abt the Bridgestone runners...something fishy???

Thats,Bridgestone runner

**Adam43** · 10 Feb 2005, 18:43 (Ref:1222229)

The Bridgestones don't seem too good at the moment, but lets not have short term memories. Remember last year Bridgestone was meant to be way off the pace and then bam one test at Imola followed by a win at Melbourne.

Dani Filth · 10 Feb 2005, 18:52 (Ref:1222242)

which was followed by a few more if i remember corectly

Marbot · 10 Feb 2005, 19:02 (Ref:1222254)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dani Filth

which was followed by a few more if i remember corectly

Pleeeeaasse,you don't have to remind us.

Super Tourer · 10 Feb 2005, 19:07 (Ref:1222260)

Full times from today's test.

www.autosport.com

1, Fernando Alonso (Renault), 1m15.732s, 101 laps
2, Juan Pablo Montoya (McLaren), 1m16.448s, 49 laps
3, Giancarlo Fisichella (Renault), 1m16.654s, 69 laps
4, Jarno Trulli (Toyota), 1m16.743s, 92 laps
5, Felipe Massa (Sauber), 1m17.273, 110 laps
6, David Coulthard (Red Bull Racing), 1m17.526, 86 laps
7, Ralf Schumacher (Toyota), 1m17.773s, 73 laps
8, Jenson Button (BAR), 1m17.989s, 71 laps
9, Mark Webber (Williams), 1m18.048s, 94 laps
10, Michael Schumacher (Ferrari), 1m18.119s, 109 laps
11, Takuma Sato (BAR*), 1m18.150s, 128 laps
12, Rubens Barrichello (Ferrari*), 1m18.266s, 76 laps
13, Christian Klien (Red Bull Racing), 1m18.517s, 58 laps
14, Nick Heidfeld (Williams), 1m18.735s, 55 laps
15, Jacques Villeneuve (Sauber), 1m19.022s, 109 laps
16, Vitantonio Liuzzi (Red Bull Racing), 1m20.118s, 61 laps

* - denotes 2004 car

Williams did not show as convincing pace on Thursday, but that was mostly down to the programme the team was running. Nick Heidfeld, in particular, spent most of the day practicing pit-stops before suffering a mechanical problem in the afternoon, while Mark Webber also lost track time after coming to a halt in the pits.

Marbot · 10 Feb 2005, 19:11 (Ref:1222266)

That's not a bad time by DC,but it's only testing, isn't it.

Dutton · 10 Feb 2005, 19:12 (Ref:1222267)

but last year it was the Imola stest wherre they basically admitted defeat anbd took the cruciakl aspects of the Mich tyres into their own design. This time...hrmmm.....dunno like.

I really am concerned by Bridgestone. They have never had my full confidence...... If they get it right, then they tend to be very good at keeping it that way.....but when they find themselves at a disadvantage, it seems they really do struggle to sort things out.

Hrrrmm.......all the questions that start to get answered come Melbourne.

raul_iulian · 10 Feb 2005, 19:14 (Ref:1222271)

What can i say. "i'm so sorry for JV" If he can not beat FM .... he can always try to beat Jordan's and Minardi's. So our hope is not over yet!

Marbot · 10 Feb 2005, 19:16 (Ref:1222274)

Quote:

Originally Posted by raul_iulian

What can i say. "i'm so sorry for JV" If he can not beat FM .... he can always try to beat Jordan's and Minardi's. So our hope is not over yet!

You have to hope they are running different programs,otherwise......2 seconds behind.....Ouch!

raul_iulian · 10 Feb 2005, 19:18 (Ref:1222277)

Quote:

Originally Posted by martyn bott

You have to hope they are running different programs,otherwise......2 seconds behind.....Ouch!

2*ouch*64 - 70 laps=a lot of OUCH

Knowlesy · 10 Feb 2005, 19:25 (Ref:1222288)

The thing that is worrying for me concerning JV, is not the times he's doing, they are meaningless.

What does concern me is his apparent desperation to make excuses for himself before the season has even started, ala his comments in another thread! A tough year beckons I fear....

Marbot · 10 Feb 2005, 19:36 (Ref:1222301)

It doesn't look good,and it's perhaps a little late to start changing driving styles.I always thought he was one of the smoother drivers,hhhmmm.

speedbump · 10 Feb 2005, 20:15 (Ref:1222359)

It took him time to get aquainted with the Renault. A little to long.
I'm hoping by March he can be comfortable with the Sauber.
I haven't seen him put in a competative time in testing yet.
I know it's just testing but once in a while you have to see what the car can do and what you can do with the car.

Snapple · 10 Feb 2005, 20:18 (Ref:1222363)

Looks like BAR are back to a midfield team next season.

Yeah, it's testing and all but they've been no where, I hope they've been running fat in every test. At least that would explain their apparent lack of pace... I'm a big Button fan and I don't want to see him scrapping with the Toyota's and Jordan's, come on BAR pull your finger out.

Marbot · 10 Feb 2005, 20:24 (Ref:1222368)

As things are now it's Mclaren closely followed by Renault then Williams,Sauber and DC....No that can't be right!

Rich R · 10 Feb 2005, 20:25 (Ref:1222371)

having 3 accidents can't have helped bar so far though.

Marbot · 10 Feb 2005, 20:28 (Ref:1222377)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich R

having 3 accidents can't have helped bar so far though.

JV drove for them once,their used to it.

Dixie Flatline · 10 Feb 2005, 23:12 (Ref:1222524)

Interesting article on Jacques' official website about his testing for Sauber:

Article is here

JV hits all the right buttons on the talk to the press - "experimenting with set-up", "on a steep learning curve", "electronics on the brakes seem to be different to what I was used to" and "I will have to adjust my driving style".

Marbot · 11 Feb 2005, 02:13 (Ref:1222614)

He did only have one year off didn't he?

Glen · 11 Feb 2005, 10:01 (Ref:1222807)

It's not fair - Massa's car is different, the electronics are designed to suit the other guy, the engineers can't change the car to suit JV, having to change his driving style is a sign of lack of respect/back-up from the team... etc etc. Just saving some folks the effort.

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