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11 Apr 2010, 18:50 (Ref:2671021) | #601 | |
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Off topic I know but at Spa will you be able to get RLM on the public airwaves with a regular radio?
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Would have been even better if they had added an hour or so to the end - got the race to 1000 miles & into proper dusk, but yeah really enjoyed the twists & turns and as you say the chance for recovery drives really added to the thrill.
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Wouldn't have made any difference to me whatsoever because in the UK we still would only see about 2 hours of the race in 45 minute intervals!
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Random thought related to the race: I hope the ACO TV director sees the onboard camera light and uses as many camera cars at Le Mans as he has done for this race.
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11 Apr 2010, 19:35 (Ref:2671050) | #606 | |
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Are you certain? The french, dutch and english announcers were on the PA last year, but you could receive Hindy via Radio.
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Comments from Bruno Famin at Racecar Engineering.com amount to the '10 factory and Oreca 908s being updated 2009 cars with minor updates to try and regain the HP lost from the air restrictor changes, but no major updates and the cars would otherwise be very similar to '09.
I doubt that Peugeot would make major changes this late in the game unless Audi gave them a major thrashing, and even now it may be too late, and the 908 seems to still be competitive, but the R15 2010 may be able to force the Pug to show it's age, as it was consistantly faster today, even with Sarazin in the car. But yes, the Oreca car is in the same spec as the factory 908s. Last edited by chernaudi; 11 Apr 2010 at 20:34. |
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Of course the Mazdas have been boosted by IMSA's restrictor break to make up for Mazda's lack of developmet in the chassis and engine. Their engine runs somewhere ~60Hp over the HPD and only just makes them competitive. Unfortunatly for them it bings them that much closer to blowing up and also wrecks their mileage. The ACO make no such competitive adjustment and now you see the real picture. And you can see also the difference the chassis makes. With RML in the Lola and Straka in the HPD the difference is only the Chassis (with some driver delta). Well done Straka for the win. |
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I had no problems anywhere except on top of hill at Les Combes (worked only when I was facing a certain direction) and around Stavelot. And that was with an MP3 player, not a decent radio.
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What strikes me is that what this sows is that Nick Wirth's design and its performance at Ricard is the ideal answer to those carping about his Virgin F1 design - whatever way you cut it he knows how to draft a car. The other aspect of the race in LMP2 (which was the one thing that kept me popping back to the PC) was that the Pescarolo is surprisingly quick. I know this time out the only reason it was a close race was the long stop Strakka had but with a more pro-like (3 driver?) lineup (the Oak Pescarolos ran pretty much 50:50 in terms of pro-am driver balance) they might have been that bit closer, which adds to the sadness that you've got a potentially race winning chassis in the US doing historics (appreciate this is somewhast OT). I seem to remember JCB ran the LMP2 Pescarolo in a test a couple of years back and it was right on the pace - and it's nice to see it still doing well - especially as an LMS race without a Pescarolo on the grid always feels hollow. |
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i think the ACO should see based on what happened in LMP qualifying that the main advantage that Audi and Peugeot have is not entirely diesel power. The pole peugeot qualified only 1.159 seconds faster than the 3rd place petrol aston. If you ask me Mr Chappel is playing a very dirty game with his cars. They have run flawlessly in both races just cruising around making trying to make it look like the diesel engine still has a huge advantage.
if you look at how the Audi R1 TDI was pushed to the Limit in Lemans 2008 you say that is how a slower car should fight. Everyone knew the R10 was no match for the 908. Audi used every tactic they had. You can hardly say that Aston Martin fought the way Audi did. and all these petrol teams complain about how the diesels have a power advantage but they can't even get their underpowered cars to run the full Lemans distance without huge problems, let alone worry about contending for the win(again except the lola aston which just cruises). Now look at LMP2. That Acura qualified 2.5 seconds faster than second place in LMP2. So what do you want to put that down to?? No one is talking about that Acura. You know what it comes down to. the Acura is a superior chassis. To come from 5 laps down. i can imagine how it literally blasted by the other P2 like it was passing a GT2. the performance advantage is not all the diesel engine it's the ability of a factory team to produce a stellar chassis and aero. No one made a big deal about it. That HPD car is on par with the Lola Aston Martin. You can hardly call the lola aston marting a factory built Aston car. It's a lola not an aston. i am sure without a doubt that if Audi and Peugeot built petrol engines they would still dominate. If i recall the Audi R8 won Lemans 6 or seven times and dominated ALMS. |
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12 Apr 2010, 07:34 (Ref:2671248) | #615 | |
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The full timing information of the race is available on
http://www.lemanseries.com/fr/s52_ci...&id_circuit=19 Top speed during race for LMP1:
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12 Apr 2010, 08:53 (Ref:2671276) | #616 | |
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the top speed of the R15+ is remarkably high, I didn't expect that car to take the number one position on the speed trap.
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I think so as top speed was an issue at le mans last year, but they've been consistently quicker than the 2010 spec peugeot (which was running low down-force as well) in every single session this weekend.
compared to le mans last year Peugeot at Le Mans: 340.86 kph Peugeot Paul ricard: 325 kph Audi R15 at Le Mans: 329.92 kph Audi R15+ at Paul Ricard: 331 kph (it ran 335 in free practice 3) Sure this isn't entirely comparable because the oreca car isn't a works peugeot, but it is a 2010-spec car. |
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12 Apr 2010, 09:15 (Ref:2671289) | #619 | ||
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They have got rid of a lot of clutter around the front which can only help with cooling and lower drag. No point being great round the bendy bits if you loose five seconds a lap on the Mulsanne!
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The new aero package of Audi is clearly doing a good job at producing less drag. |
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anyway,Prospeed might bring a pair of 997RSR at Spa,hope they do well. IMSA should gets updates for their car,their performance moved me,Pilet can pass 2010spec F in a 2009spec Porsche |
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So if Aston can manage that down the straight and the Lola chassis is certainly not shabby could we see an upset in Le Mans this year?
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rrrr .. nope ..
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Would love to see that but..., no way, mate. It´s an R15+ or a works 908 winning again. Having 6 factory diesel cars anything more than the lower step of the podium for a non diesel-non factory car is a miracle...
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and, altough important, as important as top speed is how fast you get to reach that top speed, and there the diesels should hold a massive advantage.
LMP2 cars use to have lower top speeds than GT1 cars, but they accelerate faster, brake later and have higher cornering speeds= so, faster lap times. |
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