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Old 12 Jun 2004, 18:39 (Ref:1001990)   #1
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Frank Williams confirms the inevitable... or did he?

Frank Williams has told a "source" that RS will leave WIlliams for sure in 2005!

http://f1.racing-live.com/en/headlin...12114747.shtml

A "source" well thats credible
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Old 12 Jun 2004, 18:49 (Ref:1002004)   #2
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I heard Montoya saying on the radio five live f1 show that ralf was going to toyota
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Old 12 Jun 2004, 19:08 (Ref:1002014)   #3
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The deal is DONE RS in a Toyota next year.
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Old 12 Jun 2004, 19:09 (Ref:1002015)   #4
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I don't think there's been any doubt for a while that Williams will have two new drivers in 2005.
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Old 12 Jun 2004, 19:39 (Ref:1002025)   #5
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Ralf is leaving Williams? Has the world gone MAD!

Frankie my boy, put Our Webber in the car
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Old 12 Jun 2004, 20:18 (Ref:1002041)   #6
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Frankly I'm sick of hearing the words "source" and "credible". Can we all just cool it with those two words for like a week or something. That would be nice.

Anyway.......

If Frank did tell his credible, un-named source this then it's the best decision Frank has made this year!

Common sense, of course, says that he made this move some while ago.
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Old 12 Jun 2004, 21:02 (Ref:1002065)   #7
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Frankly I'm sick of hearing the words "source" and "credible".
Well, its fair to say that what's "source" for the goose is "source" for the gander. But we could run the concept up the flagpole and see which way the wind blows. Or we could kick it over the backstep and see if the cat licks it up!

*Ahem* Or not as the case may be.
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Old 12 Jun 2004, 21:31 (Ref:1002082)   #8
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My source, is entirely credible. Sadly I can't reveal it.
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Old 12 Jun 2004, 21:43 (Ref:1002094)   #9
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Hopefully the discussion of this can end, at least until an official announcement is made.
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Old 13 Jun 2004, 03:37 (Ref:1002279)   #10
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I heard Montoya saying on the radio five live f1 show that ralf was going to toyota
Juan said: “If I was a betting person I would say (Ralf was going to) Toyota.”

http://www.planet-f1.com/news/story_15998.shtml
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Old 13 Jun 2004, 05:42 (Ref:1002323)   #11
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I think frank is mad not negotiating with ralf
...at least he could give the imression of wanting him so that ralf doesn't try too hard getting another drive then finds himself without any when franks true intentions become clear
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Old 13 Jun 2004, 06:47 (Ref:1002342)   #12
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The deal is DONE RS in a Toyota next year.
may I ask whose wall your compound eye is currently on?
..aka where did you get that confirmation?
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Old 13 Jun 2004, 07:03 (Ref:1002350)   #13
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Webber/Davidson/Heidfeld would be the list of three FW should go for. Sorry Inigo!
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Old 13 Jun 2004, 07:19 (Ref:1002354)   #14
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Webber and Villeneuve @ Williams in 2005
Raikkonen and Montoya @ McLaren in 2005
Klien and DC @ Jaguar in 2005
Ralf and Da Matta @ Toyota in 2005
Schumacher and slave labourer @ Ferrari in 2005

Thats what I think.
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Old 13 Jun 2004, 10:24 (Ref:1002464)   #15
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Webber and Villeneuve @ Williams in 2005 ..... put davidson in it - villeneuve has had his time in the sun.....
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Old 13 Jun 2004, 12:36 (Ref:1002544)   #16
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Williams have just said they want webber. I heard is on bbc radio five live.

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Old 13 Jun 2004, 12:48 (Ref:1002553)   #17
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Old 13 Jun 2004, 21:18 (Ref:1002931)   #18
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OK I'm going to confirm 2 things that my source confirmed today.
1.Ralf has signed with Toyota.
2.Webber will be at Williams next year and expect an announcement on that after the USGP.
Now to put the cat ammongst the pigions so to speak.
Webbers team mate at Williams is firming as being Anthony Davidson from BAR.He is the short priced favorite to get the second seat.

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Old 13 Jun 2004, 21:24 (Ref:1002938)   #19
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hope so! would be good
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Old 14 Jun 2004, 02:22 (Ref:1003062)   #20
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My sources tell me that without question there will be two drivers with Williams next year!

My sources deal only in absolutes!
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Old 14 Jun 2004, 02:38 (Ref:1003069)   #21
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My sources tell me that without question there will be two drivers with Williams next year!

My sources deal only in absolutes!
That was a given and I take it you ment new drivers
My source has confirmed Webber but according to him the second spot is up for grabs.Does your source indicate the second driver?

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Old 14 Jun 2004, 11:31 (Ref:1003405)   #22
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Word at the weekend is that Frank wants Webber and Coulthard, but Patrick Head is less keen on DC.

This was in several of the Sunday papers.
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Old 14 Jun 2004, 11:41 (Ref:1003418)   #23
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Everyone seems to be taking it for granted that Webber will go to Williams - it may be so, and I'd be willing to defer to various people's "sources". BUT... Webber is managed by Briatore, who has conspicuously failed thus far to confirm Trulli at Renault for 2005 (perhaps merely as a bargaining tool, but perhaps not), and we are also told that Toyota are making big-money overtures to Webber, money that Williams will not match. The contractual situation with Jaguar is also still far from clear. So perhaps a bit of caution is necessary. After all, as far as I can recall, the following drivers have been linked with a Williams drive next year:

Ralf Schumacher
Mark Webber
David Coulthard
Jacques Villeneuve
Mika Hakkinen
Kimi Raikkonen
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Jarno Trulli
Giancarlo Fisichella
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They can't all drive for Frank.
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Old 14 Jun 2004, 22:01 (Ref:1004089)   #24
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Delete Häkkinen from that list...

Button, Dixon and Räikkönen have contracts for next year.
Does Barrichello have a contract as well, I don't remember.

And I don't see Piquet or Rosberg getting the drive, so..

That'd leave it at
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Jacques
Quick Nick
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Gené
Ant Davidson

And you could probably scrap Ralf as well..
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Nonetheless, they were all 'connected' with the drive.
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