LM24 Official 2010 Le Mans entrant list - Page 2

hoppelemine · 4 Feb 2010, 13:35 (Ref:2626466)

Am I correct in understanding that the no's 17 & 18 Pescarolo and Sora are basically the same team (Henri Pescarolo's), but they have different names because they are the names that they were racing under when they won there automatic enteries?

The Badger · 4 Feb 2010, 13:51 (Ref:2626483)

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Originally Posted by hoppelemine

No Creation either.

Hardly surprised at that ..... on merit alone , and they never really acomplished anything with respect to Le Mans , now did they ?

But miffed at WR getting in though .

Jonerz · 4 Feb 2010, 13:51 (Ref:2626484)

97 Porsche is the favorite for Porsche in GT2, hopefully the entry is filled out by factory drivers or professionals. On "BMW Motorsport" I expect it will be a cooperative effort with RLR. Corvette has a very significant opportunity to walk away with GT1 and GT2 honors, which would be pretty cool. I'm excited to see the Dome return, and Highcroft will have Duncan fill out the driver talent? With Marino listed as the second driver that means Simon will be running a Pug again this year I imagine. I'm excited for the 24 already and it is only February!

Chris

Tom908V12 · 4 Feb 2010, 13:54 (Ref:2626490)

Again one of the BEST entrylists so far

CTD · 4 Feb 2010, 13:55 (Ref:2626494)

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Originally Posted by The Badger

But miffed at WR getting in though .

WR is simply a must be at Le Mans.
Im personally happy that they have gotten an invite, and no matter how they do i will cheer for them!.

But they i think that they have gotten the entry because of the small LMP2 grid.

The Badger · 4 Feb 2010, 13:56 (Ref:2626495)

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Originally Posted by hoppelemine

Am I correct in understanding that the no's 17 & 18 Pescarolo and Sora are basically the same team (Henri Pescarolo's), but they have different names because they are the names that they were racing under when they won there automatic enteries?

Thats how I would read it , as thats the team names that won the entries .

Now , lets wait and see if they seperate the 2 team names by several pits

..... knowing ACO logic ,

!!!

GT6 · 4 Feb 2010, 13:57 (Ref:2626497)

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Originally Posted by The Badger

Hardly surprised at that ..... on merit alone , and they never really acomplished anything with respect to Le Mans , now did they ?

But miffed at WR getting in though .

WR are part of Le Mans, they might not have been that successful but they supported the race in the lean times and were always fast and fun to watch even if they sometimes expired.

Sorry about the Massa and Nissan ommisions but only just over 4 months to go and starting to get excited already

Carse · 4 Feb 2010, 13:58 (Ref:2626499)

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Originally Posted by The Badger

But miffed at WR getting in though .

They are French after all...

hoppelemine · 4 Feb 2010, 14:04 (Ref:2626502)

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Originally Posted by GT6

WR are part of Le Mans, they might not have been that successful but they supported the race in the lean times and were always fast and fun to watch even if they sometimes expired.

Sorry about the Massa and Nissan ommisions but only just over 4 months to go and starting to get excited already

I think it's great to see WR back in! Do I remember seeing them finishing the race after driving the last lap and a bit on 3 wheels back in '01-'02 ish??

**Bentley03** · 4 Feb 2010, 14:08 (Ref:2626504)

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Originally Posted by canam

I don't believe they put in an entry...wishing to focus on ALMS.

Great shame, I shall miss Creation. Let's hope everything comes together to enable a competitive ALMS campaign this year!

isynge · 4 Feb 2010, 14:09 (Ref:2626507)

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Originally Posted by The Badger

Hardly surprised at that ..... on merit alone , and they never really acomplished anything with respect to Le Mans , now did they ?

But miffed at WR getting in though .

Regarding Creation, even if their 2010 plans were more concrete than they are I'd have hesitated to give them an entry. As an established team the absence of any real activity in 2009 would bump them down the list. Previous performance at LM itself isn't so significant for me - showing a solid commitment to ACO racing, which prior to 2009 they emphatically did, work for me.

WR? Why not - they got bumped off the list a few year's back, didn't let their heads go down, have built a car that seems, in the right hands (e.g. Gommendy) to have potential, and have turned and raced consistently. I'm pleased to see them there.

jab · 4 Feb 2010, 14:12 (Ref:2626509)

Sportscar outsider entering...

P1 - The Mansells are a boost to the field, regardless of capability. Nice to see Dome returning

P2 - Does look a bit thin on the ground but 2 Acuras present is good - could be another of those Binnie years. If anything, no Porsches in that category is a good thing because it'll be more unpredictable. Good to see WR back as well

GT1 - Stronger (just) and more competitive than last year. A shame there's no Maserati or Nissan, but you can't really argue with 5 manufacturers (4 plus the JLOC Lambo, anyway) in what is considered a dying category. Matech running 2 women is a point of interest too - ever happened before?

GT2 - Again, more variety than last year with the addition of the Corvette, BMW and Jag, on top of the usual quality - better than just loads of Porsches and Ferraris with the odd Spyker. Some strong drivers in there too

Overall - First impressions are very positive. A stronger field than last year with more variety. There will always be disappointments, but I think the additions this year, your variable entrants on top of the usual suspects, is strong enough to gloss over them

trahsub · 4 Feb 2010, 14:19 (Ref:2626517)

Still not a fan of these GT1 frankencars, but what can you do.

I'm happy to see the BMWs in there, but they are going to have a hard time on the long straights with their wide, blunt front ends. Can't wait for June!

The Badger · 4 Feb 2010, 14:27 (Ref:2626528)

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Originally Posted by Carse

They are French after all...

I think their a great little team , and part of the circus , but their presant car has yet to finish a race !!!

prototype · 4 Feb 2010, 14:32 (Ref:2626532)

My thoughts:

LMP1:
1. Autocon should not be in.
2. With the further restrictions, I imagine the Kolles cars will be toward the bottom of this group. Crazy how much changes in 3 years.
3. Great to see Dome back in! Hopefully some development has been done on the car.
Winner: Peugeot

LMP2:
1. This class is not the same without the Porsche Spyder.
2. I am very interested to see the Hondas on the straights of the Mulsanne.
3. Great balance between Judd, Honda and Zytek.
Winner: RML

GT1:
1. This is the new LMP2 class, who is going to be running at the end?
2. Nice to see a Saleen back. God I thought that car had potential 5 years ago.
3. I am a little uptight about this JLOC lambo. I know they qualified in the AsLMS, but it is scary to see that car again.
Winner: Luc Alphand

GT2:
1. Great class! BMW versus Ferarri versus Corvette versus Porsche.
2. 5 Ferarris versus 4 Porsches (and a Porsche first on the reserve list), it will be nice to not hear so much complaining about the balance of numbers.
3. Jaguar did not deserve an entry.
Winner: Corvette

First retirement: Jaguar (who will give up their entry).
First real retirement: Marc VDS Ford GT

Fogelhund · 4 Feb 2010, 14:34 (Ref:2626535)

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Originally Posted by KA

That one comes as a surprise to me as well- I wonder if it's anything to do with the reshuffle of Nissan's FIA GT1 plans when the Gigawave team pulled out and Sumo Power replaced them? that was only two or three weeks ago, so unless the Swiss team (announced back in November I think?) had posted entries, were there any Nissan GT1 entries for the ACO to accept?

Indeed the reshuffle is the reason for now LM entries. It's set the program back.

Fogelhund · 4 Feb 2010, 14:35 (Ref:2626537)

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Originally Posted by Bentley03

Great shame, I shall miss Creation. Let's hope everything comes together to enable a competitive ALMS campaign this year!

To be honest, they seem to have lost some credibility, in that their statements don't hold water. I like the people and the cars, but they haven't the funding. If they get it, I'll be the first to eat my words, but it is such a difficult environment.

CTD · 4 Feb 2010, 14:44 (Ref:2626544)

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Originally Posted by Fogelhund

To be honest, they seem to have lost some credibility, in that their statements don't hold water. I like the people and the cars, but they haven't the funding. If they get it, I'll be the first to eat my words, but it is such a difficult environment.

What i never could understand is why they haven't sold their car to others as a way to fund their own car!?

hoppelemine · 4 Feb 2010, 14:46 (Ref:2626549)

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Originally Posted by CTD

What i never could understand is why they haven't sold their car to others as a way to fund their own car!?

I'm pretty sure they've tried, just not had anyone who either wants one or will pay the right money for it. It's hardly been at the front in recent years....

**joeb** · 4 Feb 2010, 14:49 (Ref:2626551)

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Originally Posted by prototype

My thoughts:

LMP2:
1. This class is not the same without the Porsche Spyder.
2. I am very interested to see the Hondas on the straights of the Mulsanne.
3. Great balance between Judd, Honda and Zytek.
Winner: RML

No Spyder is really a puzzler to me too. I guess the only one that might have been would be the Muscle Milk car, I don't know if they applied for entry, but if they did and didn't get picked it's a shame.

What rules are the GT1 cars running under? FiaGT1 or previous GT1 regs?

canam · 4 Feb 2010, 14:51 (Ref:2626552)

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Originally Posted by Fogelhund

To be honest, they seem to have lost some credibility, in that their statements don't hold water. I like the people and the cars, but they haven't the funding. If they get it, I'll be the first to eat my words, but it is such a difficult environment.

What statements don't hold water? 'cos they don't say much unless they are ready to do it.

gsmith2424 · 4 Feb 2010, 14:53 (Ref:2626554)

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Originally Posted by prototype

My thoughts:

LMP1:

2. With the further restrictions, I imagine the Kolles cars will be toward the bottom of this group. Crazy how much changes in 3 years.

The Kolles car is running to 2009 specs and not 2010. This is one of the teams/cars the got a wavier on the 2010 rules changes. If Kolles were to get a ex Audi factory driver in the car then the 2010 changes would go into effect.

airbusA346 · 4 Feb 2010, 14:57 (Ref:2626557)

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Originally Posted by Jonerz

97 Porsche is the favorite for Porsche in GT2

I had only just noticed, when looking at the entry list, that BMS had entered a RSR

, looks like it could be a new(ish) RSR, because it is listed as a 4.0L

I am disappointed, that there isn't another Aston on the GT2 list

and I don't mean the Team Hong Kong Racing car.

Tom.

arakis · 4 Feb 2010, 14:58 (Ref:2626558)

So far I see only one serius Ferrari entry in gt2, Risi/Melo one, all otheres have ether Gentelman drivers or not works drivers.

same with porsche other then the BMS entry all cars seem to have their owners as main drivers.
if no88 comes into play that will be firt full works crew for porsche probably,

so far I see Corvette as favorites, two full factory cars!!
-BMW probably wont make it to the 12h mark

Most likely gt2 battle for the win Corvettes vs Risi vs Felmbyer

NightStalk3r · 4 Feb 2010, 14:59 (Ref:2626560)

Still people underestimate Narac....

Paul Van Splunteren is also a very quick driver, posting very competitive pace in Supercup and at Spa 24hrs last year.

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