LM24 Eurosport coverage (Closed - Use 'TV and Streaming' Thread) - Page 2

andy29 · 11 Jun 2010, 22:38 (Ref:2709502)

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Originally Posted by deggis

Bitrates: standard 550 kbps, high 900 kbps and very high 1500 kbps. Resolution is same in all of them (720x404). There is clear difference between them but probably hard to see if you're maximizing the stream to full screen...

I think it makes the biggest difference when things move across the screen. They become slightly less of a mess. Has anyone been watching Eurosport HD on the player? I try choosing it but it always chucks me back to the same SD feeds.

The graphics are microscopic aren't they. I thought F1's new ones were small. Eurosport's are readable though, the tiny ones are put on by whoever is doing the production at the track, so Eurosport have to just take what they are given. Well, I guess.

deggis · 11 Jun 2010, 23:04 (Ref:2709510)

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Originally Posted by andy29

Has anyone been watching Eurosport HD on the player? I try choosing it but it always chucks me back to the same SD feeds.

Huh? We were talking about this "Player".

deggis · 11 Jun 2010, 23:07 (Ref:2709512)

I just noticed the 30 min blackout (around midnight [race time]) or scheduling conflict that was previously on Eurosport schedule has been fixed. Looks like some program from ES2 was removed in favour of 24LM, which is nice but never trust Eurosport schedule...

And there are two 24 minutes blahblahs during the race... but at least ES2 will be showing live race at the same time.

jondownunder · 12 Jun 2010, 00:47 (Ref:2709536)

What kind of idiots designed and approved the on-screen graphics? They are mostly impossible to read, and my 28 inch TV isn't exactly tiny. I cannot fathom what they were thinking.

rdjones · 12 Jun 2010, 05:40 (Ref:2709572)

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Originally Posted by jondownunder

What kind of idiots designed and approved the on-screen graphics? They are mostly impossible to read, and my 28 inch TV isn't exactly tiny. I cannot fathom what they were thinking.

It's the same on a 32 inch too.......hopefully they will have sorted it for the race

Bernard Bram · 12 Jun 2010, 06:56 (Ref:2709589)

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Originally Posted by rdjones

It's the same on a 32 inch too.

37 inch screen doesn't help either.

Piglet · 12 Jun 2010, 07:41 (Ref:2709615)

I think someone said the graphics are optimised for the HD feed, which is nice

AndrewF31 · 12 Jun 2010, 08:23 (Ref:2709626)

Have any of you experienced since Thursday, the connection being stuttery for the Player? Trying to figure out if it's my connection.

The connection stops and goes back to buffering, and basically stalls so I end up refreshing the page.
Hope this doesn't continue for me during the race. I only have the TV screen after dark.

Piglet · 12 Jun 2010, 08:25 (Ref:2709627)

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Originally Posted by AndrewF31

Have any of you experienced since Thursday, the connection being stuttery for the Player? Trying to figure out if it's my connection.

The connection stops and goes back to buffering, and basically stalls so I end up refreshing the page.
Hope this doesn't continue for me during the race. I only have the TV screen after dark.

Nope mine was pretty good, even when streaming RLM at the same time. Having said that the house I'm in during the week has a pretty good broadband connection.

Victor_RO · 12 Jun 2010, 08:43 (Ref:2709633)

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Originally Posted by Piglet

Nope mine was pretty good, even when streaming RLM at the same time. Having said that the house I'm in during the week has a pretty good broadband connection.

Same here, the Player is about 10 seconds behind RLM, but it's streaming perfectly. Mind you, I'm on 30 Mbps for surfing/browsing/DL-ing...

dank · 12 Jun 2010, 08:51 (Ref:2709637)

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Originally Posted by deggis

Bitrates: standard 550 kbps, high 900 kbps and very high 1500 kbps. Resolution is same in all of them (720x404). There is clear difference between them but probably hard to see if you're maximizing the stream to full screen... it's not even SD quality so how great quality can you really expect?

Would help if some modern codec like H264 (Flash) was used instead of quite crappy Windows Media.

Well I need to get my eyes tested then, as I can't see any noticeable difference between the three different feed qualities when in the normal sized window.

The Eurosport Player doesn't hold a candle, in terms of clarity and quality, to the GT1 feed from its respective website.

Piglet · 12 Jun 2010, 09:02 (Ref:2709642)

OK, something I like about Eurosport - Neville Haye.

andy29 · 12 Jun 2010, 12:00 (Ref:2709707)

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Originally Posted by deggis

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Originally Posted by andy29

Has anyone been watching Eurosport HD on the player? I try choosing it but it always chucks me back to the same SD feeds.

Huh? We were talking about this "Player".

So was I

there's an option for HD on the beta, maybe it wasn't on the old version, I can't remember.

Piglet · 12 Jun 2010, 12:19 (Ref:2709723)

OK, here we go again, the two idiots on the roof and we got to see at least ohhh 5 seconds of what I believe the ACO were calling a "herringbone" start. Of course we'd much rather see pre recorded interviews than the live things happening on track...

deggis · 12 Jun 2010, 13:13 (Ref:2709758)

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Originally Posted by dank

Well I need to get my eyes tested then, as I can't see any noticeable difference between the three different feed qualities when in the normal sized window.

Possible. Not sure would I notice in a blind test. Differnece to the very high should be clear though, but I just noticed that the "very high" has same bitrate as "high". They ran out of bandwidht? Yesterday it worked.

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Originally Posted by andy29

So was I

there's an option for HD on the beta, maybe it wasn't on the old version, I can't remember.

I can't see any HD option

**ghinzani** · 12 Jun 2010, 13:47 (Ref:2709809)

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Originally Posted by Stephen H

is anybody still wayching eurosport on the analogue astra satellite??

I lost the signal last night - dont know whether my analogue satellite dish has finally died or if the analogue signal has been taken off air????

thanks for any help

Its probably not much help but I can check tommorow night when I get home that its still on Analouge. Lets hope so otherwise its Digital and listening in German. Although thats got to be better than listening to Kirby and that utter blockhead who has been presenting the 24 minutes. How did he ever get on TV? and has he ever been on before? It does'nt show.

Gingers4Justice · 12 Jun 2010, 14:06 (Ref:2709832)

I have no idea what the Eurosport hospitality have been feeding Carlton Kirby this morning, but it seems to be working!

Kirby hasn't been too bad in this first hour of the race - dare I say it? - he might have even put in a decent performance.

Gil Abobeleira · 12 Jun 2010, 14:06 (Ref:2709833)

Edit: Nevermind.

dank · 12 Jun 2010, 14:08 (Ref:2709836)

Good Lord! Eurosport concede that the on-screen graphics are rubbish.

Work-around? Buy a bigger telly. Ha!

deggis · 12 Jun 2010, 14:37 (Ref:2709865)

Someone is being a cheapskate... but the graphics must come from the production company (ACO? or what?) so its probably not Eurosport's fault. If it was done properly, there would be bigger graphcis for SD and smaller ones for HD.

EsbenT · 12 Jun 2010, 15:29 (Ref:2709902)

This director is a bit of a moron, isn't he?

Hepatic · 12 Jun 2010, 15:39 (Ref:2709914)

managing to miss the Mansell and Ford crashes hasn't been too clever, but then that might have been more a cameraman wrong place wrong time issue. would appreciate not seeing the same flipping advert back to back in a break tho

on the plus side, current commentary is great

Piglet · 12 Jun 2010, 17:52 (Ref:2710055)

Agreed, current commentary is fab. Liz Halliday does a really good job.

...and we haven't seen the paid of idiots on the roof for hours!!

marcosgt · 12 Jun 2010, 21:23 (Ref:2710253)

Eurosport's coverage has seemed pretty good, although a few incidents seem to have been missed by the cameras.

The English (language) commentary team are all doing a great job.

Not sure how long I'll stay up tonight - I might get an earlyish night and get up early tomorrow morning.

M

chunder · 12 Jun 2010, 21:57 (Ref:2710283)

every time I turn on it's Kirby!

He makes a mistake with nearly every observation!

Woeful, inadequate, unprofessional and only mildly entertaining!

PLease for the love of God will someone do the decent thing

It's bad enough having to try and watch a race where the graphics are smaller than a pixel on a screen (I am watching on a 40+ in telly).

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