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30 Aug 2018, 21:22 (Ref:3847142) | #1 | ||
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MaximumGroup. Net2019 Touring Car Trophy (TCR)
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MaximumGroup.net Touring Car Trophy (TCT) 2019 Want to drive a Touring Car but don’t have the budget We have an exciting new race series in 2019 for Teams and Drivers at a fraction of the current Touring Car/TCR cost. Eligible cars: TCR to any specification World Touring Cars NGTC Touring Cars S2000 Touring Cars Seat Super Copa mk2 The MaximumGroup.net Touring Car Trophy (TCT) is being introduced in 2019 to run alongside the current Milltek Sport Volkswagen Cup on the British GT package and similar high-profile events. We invite race teams and drivers to get in touch with us to find out more information about this exciting new series. Email: motorsport@maximumgroup.net Edit- thread title typo, stupid mobile autocorrected TCT to TCR! |
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30 Aug 2018, 21:45 (Ref:3847147) | #2 | |
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Always like to see new championships but... can't see this working. From that list of eligible cars you'll only be getting TCR cars in any significant number (and judging by TCR UK not that many!) and that still involves the cost of buying a TCR car, so not really that cheap.
WTCC (I assume TC1) cars won't happen, and there are very few spare NGTC cars around. Not sure about S2000 or SEATs. Good luck to them, but I'm getting the same vibes as TCR UK and BTEC... |
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30 Aug 2018, 22:06 (Ref:3847151) | #3 | |
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So basically grid filler.
They have previously touted around various TCR / VAG related ideas. Has all the hallmarks of a fishing exercise. Target a big enough range of eligible cars and hope enough people bite. |
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And sounds similar to DTC when they tried to add TCR to their existing series. Or like plans to add TCR as WTCC2 to help TC1 get numbers Or when Creventic created the 24h Proto series and then brought it back for another year Or when TCR Benelux added Clios to their championship Or when STCC added Clios to their championship (actually this one worked when they backed down) Or when Peugeot were going to create a Peugeot only Endurance series from the 308 Cup and other Peugeot series (again it worked when they canned this idea and kept 308 Racing Cup) Basically. Chances of success are small. |
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31 Aug 2018, 10:52 (Ref:3847204) | #5 | ||
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This looks to be an attempt to saturate an already full market.
It will either not get going at all, or if it does may cause TCR UK to collapse depending on which of these would be cheaper to run and bring sponsors on board. Maximum I think are wading into out of depth territory... running a race series I would suspect is a far more demanding task than running small(ish) race team? |
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it is all about cost, okay you wont have mr gow wanting 10k as a registration fee but ngtc and s2000 cars are fragile and tcr even more so and it doesnt take much to break suspension parts. you might have the option to fabricate your own unline btcc where everything has to have toca stamps |
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31 Aug 2018, 12:37 (Ref:3847233) | #8 | ||
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Don't believe the two Vectras are race ready. There are a few S2000 cars around but I don't see the appeal of running one in this type of series. WTCC TC1 is a non-starter. Very few cars available and too expensive to run. Assuming TCR UK continues, I don't see any drivers doing TCT as well - most are struggling for budget in TCR as it is without adding more races in another series. Even if TCR UK folds, I think this is too much of a step down for many drivers - going from known, if poorly supported, formula to a rung-what-you-brung club series. I suspect we will be able to count the number of entries on one hand. |
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3 Sep 2018, 11:40 (Ref:3847872) | #10 | |
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There are lots of eligible cars around running in many different classes - this idea is to bring them together, while trying to keep it fairly cheap.
There is a massive jump in costs from a series like VW Cup to the likes of British GT/TCR UK/Clios, the likely aim of this series is to fill that void. |
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3 Sep 2018, 20:21 (Ref:3847980) | #12 | |
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Runs in Britcar atm. There are a few ex-btcc cars in similar series, think the Arena Focus also runs in Britcar, there's a few Hondas around and the Golf runs in time attack stuff.
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4 Sep 2018, 05:24 (Ref:3848055) | #13 | |
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The problem with throwing an 'umbrella ' over a wide range of cars is that potentially you end up with a 15 car grid (say) with 3 cars from each 'class ', which doesn't always work.
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4 Sep 2018, 09:20 (Ref:3848094) | #14 | ||
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And then everyone switches to the dominant class because its the car to have and nobody wants a class win, they want overall glory and a drive for Team HARD.
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6 Sep 2018, 19:41 (Ref:3848538) | #15 | ||
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I know of quite a few Seat Supercopas looking for somewhere to race.
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13 Sep 2018, 10:45 (Ref:3849824) | #17 | |
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I don't see what good further fragmenting touring car racing in the UK would do
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13 Sep 2018, 12:51 (Ref:3849864) | #18 | |
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I think a lot of people are not really getting the point of this series. This does not step on the toes of BTCC/TCR UK/Historics, but gives car owners extra opportunities to use their cars. There are quite a few Supercopas and TCR cars out there racing in a variety of classes and series, they can now race directly with other touring cars without the high costs of TCR or BTCC. It gives car owners more chance to rent the cars out and it also helps to get younger talent a taste of modern machinery in a competitive environment.
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15 Dec 2018, 21:23 (Ref:3870573) | #19 | ||
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Bump for those who wish to discuss this series.
Team Dynamics with a Civic and Maximum with a Golf confirmed so far. |
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17 Dec 2018, 07:18 (Ref:3870768) | #20 | |
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I think the Dynamics announcement will help this series a lot - seeing a big name deciding to have a play will boost the seriousness of the championship and hopefully make a few others commit.
There seems to be lots of interest around the series on FB |
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17 Dec 2018, 09:04 (Ref:3870779) | #21 | |
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Having a big team like Dynamics will raise the profile of the championship. That is just what the series needs
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17 Dec 2018, 09:20 (Ref:3870784) | #22 | |
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another nail in the coffin for tcr uk
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17 Dec 2018, 12:17 (Ref:3870827) | #23 | |
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As TCR cars can be used here, I dont see any point in TCR UK anymore considering they struggled to get to double figure entries alot of the time.
Do we know if there is any planned coverage for this series on Youtube same as we had for TCR this year? |
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18 Dec 2018, 18:38 (Ref:3871200) | #24 | |
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Indeed, it seems TCR UK will be lucky to get any cars out this coming season
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HMS Racing to run Sherman!
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