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Old 30 Sep 2003, 21:04 (Ref:735883)   #1
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Which year had the best final race of the season ?

I was so looking forward to the final race of this year ...but am so dissapointed that it will now not be a classic like i thought it would be ....
So instead of talking about this year ( like we have in many other threads )....

What year from the past has had the most exciting and thrilling final race of the year ?

well......Yesterday i dug out and watched Adelaide 1986 again when Mansell got that huge tyre blow out along the main straight when he was heading for his first ever WDC . Not only was it a great , exciting final race of the season , the qualifing session was superb too ! Mansell , went out on his sticky qualifing tyres early on in the session and put in a awesome qualifing lap . For most of the session no one could touch him , but near the end of the session Aryton Senna went out for his final run in his JPS Lotus and really drove it to its limit !....The reason that this was so good , is that at this point ( last race of the season ) the title could have been won by 3 drivers....and there was Aryton mixing it all up with his on the limit agressive laps...

Then the race came the next day .....Mansell from the pole got a terrible 1st lap , was over taken by 4 or 5 cars....but then started his usual charge to catch and get by the others... He got himself into a World Championship winning position , after pushing hard.......then , The massive tyre blow out !.....

Mansell out of the race , Prost became the World Champion ... but nevertheless.....what a fanstastic exciting final race of the season....

So i say Adelaide 1986 was one of the best final races of the season .

What year do you think was a classic ?

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Old 30 Sep 2003, 21:09 (Ref:735890)   #2
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Well, I'd say the Japanese Grand Prix 1996, but I would be biased as it was my birthday and I was a mad keen Damon Hill fan

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Old 30 Sep 2003, 21:13 (Ref:735897)   #3
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I'd go for 97, I never thought that Villeneuve would get the job done.

The fact that the lead changed hands so late in the race and the fact that at the time I was worrid that his car may have been damaged!
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Old 30 Sep 2003, 21:28 (Ref:735928)   #4
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I've got to say 1986. It was a great race in its own right independant of the championship, with surprsie, drama, 5 different leaders, some marvellous performances, and unlikely points-scorers. Within the championship context it was even better, unless you're a Mansell fan. At least it ended with the first back-to-back champion in 26 years.
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Old 30 Sep 2003, 21:34 (Ref:735935)   #5
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nice one Boots !...And they were driving the Turbo cars too !
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Old 30 Sep 2003, 21:41 (Ref:735945)   #6
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Aus '86 sure had everthing didn't it! Including the the neccessary heartbrake for the British fans . Japan '96 though is not without it's charm .
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Old 30 Sep 2003, 21:48 (Ref:735950)   #7
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I think the finish to the 1964 championship was quite close (from what I have read) didn't that go down to the last lap or something?
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Old 30 Sep 2003, 23:42 (Ref:736050)   #8
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Adelaide '86 with the great racing, the Mansell blowout & best of all the Prost victory.
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Old 1 Oct 2003, 00:44 (Ref:736084)   #9
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I agree with Sato San I had a good seat at the Adelaide 86 GP and I have never seen as many people stand up as much in the stands. Just a pity the race does not go there any more.
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Old 1 Oct 2003, 02:09 (Ref:736129)   #10
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I have to agree Adelaide '86 however I was only five at the time and don't remember watching it although I have it on tape now , what a race!!

I'd also go with Adelaide '94 as I was there and had followed the season, the tension leading up was amazing, as was the atmosphere in Adelaide.
 
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As i only started following f1 in 85,i'd have to say DEFINITELY 86,what a fooking AWSOME finale.I still get pumped thinking about it!!!!!
I also agree that 97 had serious respect heaped on JV-i didn't think he could do it either.

And all those that say 96-you are all too sad beyond words!!!lol
We are talking about car racing here not consolation prizes
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Obviously 2002: a thrilling conclusion of a thrilling season!
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I had a good seat at the Adelaide 86 GP and I have never seen as many people stand up as much in the stands.
that must have been amazing !...what a race to actually see from the trackside . I would have loved to be able to say I was there .
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Any race in Adelaide was generally an exciting season finisher IMO.

Jerez 1997 with three drivers setting the same pole time and the race itself was great to witness! Such a strange but thrilling weekend!
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1986 must be one of the best of all time.

As for the last 10 years; IMO not easy to choose between 1997 (Hakkinen's first win) and 1998 (Hakkinen's first title).

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Yeah 1998 was good. I was rooting for Schuey that day (didn't like Hakk at the time. Doh!) as he had been such a brave battler all year in a slower car. Watching his fightback from the back of the grid was mesmerising but, alas, that title would have to wait another 2 years.
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Old 1 Oct 2003, 18:56 (Ref:737034)   #18
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1995 Adelaide where Damon Hill won by 2 laps after all the front runners went out and Coulthard hit the pit lane entry while leading that was funny.

Also Forti nearly scored a point in that race with 7th for perdo Diniz
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As for the last 10 years; IMO not easy to choose between 1997 (Hakkinen's first win) and 1998 (Hakkinen's first title).

I am not sure you can count Hakkinen's first win as something special to look back on, he had many more deserved wins (Villeneuve and Couldthard LET him have that), if you wanted a special Hakkinen win to look back on then surely that was Spa 2000.

What people look back on Jerez 97 was the Villeneuve V Schumacher thing, not the winner of the race!
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My vote would have to go to Suzuka 1999 or 2000. (I'm pretty sure it was 2000.) But not because of the race, but for what took place in qualifying.

Hakkinen and M. Schumacher went at it for nearly the entire hour, trading pole position several times. I remember that one would set a pole time, then the cameras would show the other sitting in his car. He would see the time, smile, shake his head, and promptly go out and run a quicker lap. IIRC, Schumacher ended up with the pole, several hundredths faster than Hakkinen. Rarely have I seen such absolute skill and commitment by two drivers to take the pole. We all knew that both drivers were operating on the absolute ragged edge. Compared to the qualifying, the race was very anti-climactic.

This is perhaps the greatest reason why I don't like the single-car, single-lap qualifying. Some of the best action in recent F1 years took place before the race.
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It was both years Wally. In 1999 Schuey set the fastest time despite running off the track at the second apex of Spoon Curve - mesmerising!

2000 was just outstanding given the pressure involved - they were only seperated by something like 0.037 seconds at the end, both reaching the limit. That was the most exciting qauli I have ever watched. Awesome. (hope Sato san has it on tape!) And I thought the race was just as good!

Sadly, Suzuka wasn't the last race of 2000.

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1986. Easily. Three competitors. Best driver for WDC, best car for WCC.
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1964. Three drivers went into the final. Sutees won the championship after Bandini his team mate and Hill came together. It was all a bit different in those days. I couldn't imagine what a modern day audience and media would make of that. Trouble is there was nothing to make of it really. Perhaps we could learn something here. And Hill sent Bandini a LP of driving lessons for Christmas. Top bloke. Read more here: http://www.grandprix.com/gpe/rr131.html Racing was so much more fun then
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2000 was just outstanding given the pressure involved - they were only seperated by something like 0.037 seconds at the end, both reaching the limit. That was the most exciting qauli I have ever watched. Awesome. (hope Sato san has it on tape!)
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Not as good as Adelaide 1986 IMO , but yer ...that was a special one . Great to se Nige win finally in 1994

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