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20 Oct 2003, 04:56 (Ref:756540)
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Le Mans Classic 2004
Just to mention that Le Mans Classic 2004 is now on line...
I especially noticed this : - 366 competing cars... - six grids (instead of 5 last year) : Grid 1, cars from 1923 to 1939 Grid 2, cars from 1949 to 1956 Grid 3, cars from 1957 to 1961 Grid 4, cars from 1962 to 1965 Grid 5, cars from 1966 to 1971 Grid 5, cars from 1972 to 1978 Nice, isn't it ? 
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20 Oct 2003, 09:21 (Ref:756703)
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Yep, shame is 6 weeks after the main event though..........
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20 Oct 2003, 10:17 (Ref:756762)
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...and a waste of time. There is no need closing a public road for such a pointless spectacle; all you do with this is tick off the locals. The Historics can run on the Bugatti track just the same.
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20 Oct 2003, 10:21 (Ref:756766)
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Ture, but it wouldn't be the same would it........
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20 Oct 2003, 10:24 (Ref:756769)
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I suppose in the grand scheme, they are all pointless spectacles aren't they? Nice event.
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20 Oct 2003, 10:28 (Ref:756773)
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Some have less of a point than others, though. (to put it bluntly
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Cybersdorf, go see the event before dismissing it as pointless. I do declare, if the sight of the great cars on the 24 hour circuit does not stir your blood, I would urge you to check your pulse.
I don't subscribe to the view that the contest is any the less valid just because it is populated by privateers in historic cars. These competitors race as hard as anyone in the contemporary race and it is fair to say that some of the cream of the entry would probably not be keen to make the effort if the Classic were held on the Bugatti Circuit. Besides, the Bugatti is set aside for displays of visiting classic road-cars, brought by the tens of thousands of spectators who are there specifically to see the Le Mans cars on the proper track. As for antagonising the locals - well, apart from the industrial units on the Hunaudieres, just about everyone else wins. The hoteliers, the restaurateurs, the patisseries, even the supermarket in Monce en Belin get my business for a week which they wouldn't otherwise do. |
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You cannot be serious?  I loved every moment of last year's Classic - to my mind it was every bit as good as (perhaps even better?) than the June event. The fact that the cars were allowed to run on the full circuit was a great deal more than just the icing on the cake. It was a fantastic weekend which simply wouldn't have been done justice on the Bugatti. I can say quite frankly that I wouldn't have gone had it not been on the full circuit, and I suspect that several of the drivers and owners that I went with for the weekend wouldn't have bothered had the event been on the Bugatti. |
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Totally agree, last year's Classic was, in a way, a more interesting and certainly inviting event than LM 'proper'. I know there were some problems leading up to it, but as long as it's well attended, then local businesses must surely benefit. Will certainly be going. Which reminds me must dig out some of my photos..
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why would I care if they close a public road down in France ???
.. it is much nicer to see the cars down the long straights .. even if not at full speed... 
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Yes Indeed the classic race is a great event and well worth having - one day I will make the trip over for both events. As it is at the moment I havent been for either.
By the way is it true that some of the top cars actually lap faster than some of the GT cars do in the main event? If this is so its still a very impressive pace - even if they are not running at their full potential.
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I agree, there is a real mystique to see classic sports cars run on the course they used to run on. I believe HSR has some of the largest enduro fields of the year at the Daytona HSR finale. Some cars have only run the Daytona event because those cars had history there.
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I haven't got any speeds etc. immediately to hand from last year's Classic but I doubt that Rahal and Redman were hanging about in the 917! I would certainly expect the fastest guys in the Classic to be running quicker than, say, a GT Porsche.
(In case you suspect a degree of favourtism towards the classic cars from one who doesn't exactly fall over himself with enthusiasm for GTs, I will be happy to be proved wrong.... )
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The fastest lap was set by... Willy Green
in the Ligier JS2, in 4'24"735, as fast as the slowest GTs in 2003 (both TVRs and the GT Maranello were slower)...Cy, are you serious ? I'm not sure... This may have been the greatest event of the last years in Le Mans, and the next one will be a enormous success, according to ACO's desk : they've a lot of questionning by customers, fans and teams... Can't wait ! 
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Checked : the fastest lap was done by Mark Hales (1970 Ferrari 512S) on lap 3 in 3'24"658 (115.372 mph/185.673kmh).
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How is that Fab??????????????
I think you've got your numbers wrong. A 3'24''658 lap is way faster than the quoted 185.673Km/h.
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3'24.658"!!! Was Jean Luc Pickard driving it Fab?
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3m24 would have been a sensational lap........
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And I have another
to mention : those lap times are from the 2003 support race, not from the 2002 Classic meeting...
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