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16 Dec 2005, 12:37 (Ref:1485251) | #1 | ||
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Whither Wurz?
OK. It's Friday, so where's Alex going?
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Down the pub ?
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I would imagine he will go to BMW as third driver - why?
1. It opens up the possibility of a race drive in 2007 - something that is very unlikely at McLaren. 2. De la Rosa is doing a good job at McLaren and for a lot less money I would imagine. 3. As they have PDLR - McLaren can afford to run a less experienced driver in the 2nd test car. 4. Paffett and Hamilton are waiting in the wings as the next breed of test driver for McLaren. Paffett has heavy 'emotional' backing from Mercedes as their lead DTM driver and Champion, Hamilton has been with McLaren since the year dot and after all that investment in him, they will surely have to run him in F1. 5. Taking into account all of the above, if I were Wurz I would move onto pastures new whilst they were on offer. |
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16 Dec 2005, 14:45 (Ref:1485341) | #5 | |
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My thoughts exactly ST.
He'd be mad not to move to BMW. It's amazing to think how long Wurz has been in the shadows......five years as McLaren reserve material, amazing for a driver of his talent. |
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16 Dec 2005, 15:01 (Ref:1485346) | #6 | ||
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whatever happened with Wurz needing a special car to drive because he is so tall. im not sure that this is a real problem if the car was originally designed for someone his height - like with williams and webber, but is this even something BMW can manage at this stage of their development?
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it may not be hard but it costs money and time.
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16 Dec 2005, 15:45 (Ref:1485374) | #9 | |
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Around 2 weeks and $500 000-$750 000 for a redesigned tub iirc.
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16 Dec 2005, 17:04 (Ref:1485414) | #10 | |
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I wonder if Champ Car would be more suitable for him although I'm not sure if the same issues would be present there. I reckon there are not many F1 teams willing to redesign a cockpit for a driver unless he is of supreme talent (for many reasons). Wurz must be thoroughly disgusted that his physical stature is holding him back in a land full of jockeys.
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20 Dec 2005, 11:45 (Ref:1487294) | #13 | ||
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Well the signing of Kubica partly answers the question. Will Alex be satisfied to continue earning a tidy salary testing or could he move to sports cars so he could race?
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He would have to bring a budget to a sportscar team unless he was signed by Audi, Porsche or Peugeot and he might be too expensive for all of them.
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20 Dec 2005, 23:35 (Ref:1487718) | #15 | |
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why would he be expensive, he is a TEST driver and nothing more. read my lips and remember where you heard it first and many months ago, Wurtz will NEVER race a front line F1 car again, I recomend you find a new F1 hero, those who are holding at for the elusive press conference announcing Alex's deal with Ferrari / Mc Laren/ Renault et al. probably would be ok in sports cars, why not, but he aint no F1 racer as he proved when he had his chance.
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20 Dec 2005, 23:42 (Ref:1487724) | #16 | |
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His name is Wurz, not Wurtz.
As for him "not being an F1 racer", he could have had a creditable career - but took the sensible move of being paid handsomely to drive for a top team in a testing role. He must be good, Ron wouldn't have kept him for 5 years otherwise. |
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20 Dec 2005, 23:58 (Ref:1487736) | #17 | |
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That post just smacks of bad attitude, alf.
Alex performed quite good at Benetton in the years he raced for them iirc, and would certainly be good enough to command a place on the current grid IMO. And no, he's not my hero... |
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21 Dec 2005, 12:36 (Ref:1488017) | #18 | ||
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Since Gary is in and Alex is still in negotiations w/ Mc M-B;
a) He could still test for them in some capacity. b) There just aren't any other F1 offers. c) He's switching to M-B DTM where there's no problem fitting in. d) He's off w/ Lance touring on their bikes. Feel free to add e) and so on... |
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There could be a vacancy at Renault in 2007, but, to be honest, I can't imagine Wurz is topping many people's lists. He's good, but there are a lot of good drivers out there.
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Bahrain was his first race since 2000, he had to qualify first and he claimed seventh on the grid ahead of a podium finish - it was about as good as anyone could have asked for, and proof that there are a lot of good drivers not racing in F1.
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I don't realy rate the guy and i certainly don't think he is worth as much as he is being payed. Delarosa is a much better and usefull pilot and as it was said before for a lot less (we pressume) sp?
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How long have you been watching F1, Dan?
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Wurz struggled against Fisichella once given the Benetton seat for 1998-2000. He had the occasional strong showing, but i dare say that his lackluster form showed in those years didnt help his cause.
The only 'great' memory i have have Wurz is when he filled in for Gehard Berger in the Benetton Renault in 1997. He put in some great drives during those three races (however, remember the 1997 was a race winning car that season whereas the 1998-2000 Benetton was not). At the end of 2000 if i recall correctly with the Benetton signing on Jenson Button, Wurz was left with few options. Im sure he could have found himself in a Jordan race seat after Heinz-Harald was sacked during 2001, or could have landed a role with other midfield teams such as Sauber, Arrows, or even Prost. He made a decision, and a hard one to make. Do i trundle around the middle to back of the grid in a average car (Sauber, Arrows, BAR, Jordan?) or do i take a large pay cheque from Mercedes and test for McLaren. If i remember correctly Panis tested for McLaren for a season, and then landed a drive at BAR alongside Villeneuve. Unfortunately for Alex, his desire to earn a solid pay cheque may be more important then lining up on the grid. |
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Ok sorry for spelling Wurz wrong. but its got nothing to do with attitude, and everything to do with facts, Wurz only ever raced well in other peoples cars and as is stated above, Panis took a year off and landed a Toyota ride next term.. 5 years later Wurz is still a tester. Ron probably keeps him because with him he has a bench mark, which must be better than getting ( and training) a new tester every year, which I guess is inevitable, with new "ambicious" young bucks appearing on the scene every year. Wurz clearly isn't going any where and so keeps a well paying job as a tester,smart move, good luck to him I dont buy into the "take the money and run" too much, or if its true it proves my point that he aint no F1 RACER I conceded that he was probably ok as a sports car driver, but thats a different gig. I am stagered that you find it bad attitude as I am entitled to my oppinion, as are you, and from the posts above some seem to agree with me, so lets just say our bit and not get personal eh I have a great attitude and to prove it have a merry christmass, ( and ALEX ) |
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