LMS to be World Series within 5 years - Page 3

Bob Riebe · 25 Apr 2009, 21:34 (Ref:2449520)

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Originally Posted by tlongman

If they do have some sort of world series where LMS and ALMS teams cross the pond more often, I wonder if they would increase the length of the ALMS races. LMS races are 6 hrs. long about, so maybe a race like Road America would be extended to 6 hours. THAT would be great race.

Return of the Road America 500!

fieldodreams79 · 25 Apr 2009, 21:36 (Ref:2449522)

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Originally Posted by Bob Riebe

Return of the Road America 500!

that's what i'm talkin 'bout.

Graham Goodwin · 25 Apr 2009, 22:21 (Ref:2449548)

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Originally Posted by Bob Riebe

Nelson Ledges; go back to when racers were men. When pitching a tent, and peeing in a pit toilet were the norm and no cared because they were there to race.

So the guys who race nowadays don't qualify as men because someone fitted flush toilets at the circuit?

Tell you what Bob - you say that to their faces and I'll hold your coat ;-)

Bob Riebe · 25 Apr 2009, 22:46 (Ref:2449559)

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Originally Posted by Graham Goodwin

So the guys who race nowadays don't qualify as men because someone fitted flush toilets at the circuit?

Tell you what Bob - you say that to their faces and I'll hold your coat ;-)

Anyone who whined about it had better be careful on a windy day, his skirt might blow into his face. (ceptin Scotsmen of course)

Fogelhund · 26 Apr 2009, 11:27 (Ref:2449832)

A series that never has had much manufacturer support is going to self title itself the World Series?

Graham Goodwin · 26 Apr 2009, 12:36 (Ref:2449860)

Only the FIA can grant the Championship WC status

ger80 · 26 Apr 2009, 13:55 (Ref:2449892)

yes, but they can name it "world series" without FIA grant

Graham Goodwin · 26 Apr 2009, 14:02 (Ref:2449895)

Only that's not what Patrick peter decribed it as

Fogelhund · 26 Apr 2009, 14:07 (Ref:2449899)

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Originally Posted by Graham Goodwin

Only the FIA can grant the Championship WC status

Of course, but after the LMS asks for such a title........ which is in essence what I was getting at.

The Badger · 26 Apr 2009, 14:08 (Ref:2449901)

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Originally Posted by Bob Riebe

I think the horse is being put behind the cart here, the "series" is a dream at this point and what tracks--heck at this point bad choice is relative.

Bring them up to Donnybrooke, that five thousand foot straight will see who gots the ponies.
Bob

I was pointing out that the track can handle a series like that , imo , as it did before . Thats all Bob .

Gingers4Justice · 26 Apr 2009, 16:04 (Ref:2450021)

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Originally Posted by TWK

So, they throw away a bunch of successful ALMS races and keep a bunch of failure LMS races? How very, very French (or European, I should say).

When you get some fans to show up for those LMS races, give us a holler over here in the colonies. We'd be happy to consider racing. In the meantime, there's not one LMS race that touches the top five ALMS races for attendance. And the so-called Asian Le Mans Series hasn't even happened yet, after two aborted tries.

Silverstone had 53, 000 at it's LMS race. Don't forget, TV coverage of LMS races doesn't make it look like there's more there than there is than F1, A1GP, WTCC etc.

dj choc ice · 26 Apr 2009, 17:02 (Ref:2450048)

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Originally Posted by NightStalk3r

Brands Hatch doesn't have the facilities for the LMS.

Add to that as well that if you dont live around the London, Norwich, Northhampton area as well its bloody miles from everywere else in the country, about 6 hours drive from Preston which isnt particularly far north, Silverstone is the only venue i want to see the LMS at, Donington is good but the new owners have really ****ed things up and i fear for the circuit now.

johntt · 27 Apr 2009, 00:10 (Ref:2450287)

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Originally Posted by Gingers4Justice

Silverstone had 53, 000 at it's LMS race. Don't forget, TV coverage of LMS races doesn't make it look like there's more there than there is than F1, A1GP, WTCC etc.

A lot of tickets were given away for free by Peugeot via their dealers though.

rich07 · 27 Apr 2009, 01:43 (Ref:2450321)

Numbers wise I've seen it reported somewhere that it was in the region of 20-30,000 tix that Peugeot gave away, but that is a good thing, it brings people to the race who normally wouldn't go but give people a freebie and they change their mind. (slightly off topic but quite interesting all the same)

KSM86 · 27 Apr 2009, 05:23 (Ref:2450366)

How i would love for there to be a race in Australia. But we all know how that went last time ALMS came to Adelaide. Although there was 65,000 peolpe there on race day.

cdsvg · 27 Apr 2009, 06:53 (Ref:2450398)

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Originally Posted by KSM86

How i would love for there to be a race in Australia. But we all know how that went last time ALMS came to Adelaide. Although there was 65,000 peolpe there on race day.

As i've been wishing for for years - stupid politics means it isnt going to happen again unfortunately.

Graham Goodwin · 27 Apr 2009, 08:32 (Ref:2450458)

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Originally Posted by dj choc ice

Add to that as well that if you dont live around the London, Norwich, Northhampton area as well its bloody miles from everywere else in the country, about 6 hours drive from Preston which isnt particularly far north, Silverstone is the only venue i want to see the LMS at, Donington is good but the new owners have really ****ed things up and i fear for the circuit now.

The 'London, Norwich, Northampton area' That's some 'area' - London to Norwich is 120 miles and can take about 3 hours to drive.

Silverstone may be convenient but it is hardly an inspirational venue!

TheNewBob · 27 Apr 2009, 10:59 (Ref:2450568)

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Originally Posted by johntt

A lot of tickets were given away for free by Peugeot via their dealers though.

I'd have thought a lot of well-attended big and well-backed events frequently do the same.

JAG · 27 Apr 2009, 12:55 (Ref:2450663)

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Originally Posted by Graham Goodwin

Silverstone may be convenient but it is hardly an inspirational venue!

I'm not sure that's the case any longer, speak to younger fans and Silverstone is now considered to be a classic track, I've been impressed on my last few visits, particularly if it's nice weather and there's a good crowd on.

JAG · 27 Apr 2009, 13:02 (Ref:2450666)

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Originally Posted by Fogelhund

A series that never has had much manufacturer support is going to self title itself the World Series?

How much manufactuer backing does a series actually need?

I'd say Peugeot and Audi would back such a series, there's also Aston Martin. P2 has always been for privateers, GT1...................., while I prefare GT2 to be for privateers with factory developed and supported cars so you can increase the numbers.

I'd imagine a World Series would consist of the LMS and Asian series, so I suspect the organisers would be looking to attract a Japanease manufactuer to P1.

Mal · 27 Apr 2009, 13:53 (Ref:2450695)

Announcments like these are often either done with prior knowledge of some backing from Manufacturers or in order to guage interest.

Fogelhund · 27 Apr 2009, 18:14 (Ref:2450910)

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Originally Posted by JAG

How much manufactuer backing does a series actually need?

A world series would need money.... manufacturers or sponsors....??

Gingers4Justice · 27 Apr 2009, 19:15 (Ref:2450962)

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Originally Posted by JAG

I'm not sure that's the case any longer, speak to younger fans and Silverstone is now considered to be a classic track, I've been impressed on my last few visits, particularly if it's nice weather and there's a good crowd on.

I'm 14 and I accept that Silverstone is a terrible circuit.

I'm not stupid and suggesting that it should be held at Oulton Park or Cadwell (lol), but I'm not keen on Silverstone.

Lipp · 27 Apr 2009, 19:26 (Ref:2450974)

I think the economic circumstances are extremely good for a worldwide LM Series. Endurance racing is the perfect venue for the testing and development of all kinds of hybrids/diesels and other engines, how about a rotaty hybid? it will come!

BTW:On the topic of smoking...you guys forgot a great circuit... what about Zandvoort???

Gingers4Justice · 27 Apr 2009, 21:23 (Ref:2451068)

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Originally Posted by Lipp

I think the economic circumstances are extremely good for a worldwide LM Series. Endurance racing is the perfect venue for the testing and development of all kinds of hybrids/diesels and other engines, how about a rotaty hybid? it will come!

BTW:On the topic of smoking...you guys forgot a great circuit... what about Zandvoort???

Zandvoort - now we are talking. Who needs an LMS race at Silverstone...

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