[Official] Round 12: Hungarian Grand Prix

[henk4]

Originally Posted by bjohnsonsmith

Austria borders Hungary, however RBR happened to be based in Milton Keynes, England and arose from the ashes of the Jaguar F1 team, so I think you'll find the majority if the team personel speak English. If the BBC can stream their web content to Europe then they may have heard the commentary.

I know where RBR has their workshops, but organisers play the Austrian and not the Milton Keynes anthem when they win...... And the way we get BBC-TV is directly through the cable...without any streaming whatsoever. (and for your information the BBC is already in Europe.....even when it is in the UK only)

[bjohnsonsmith]

Originally Posted by henk4

I know where RBR has their workshops, but organisers play the Austrian and not the Milton Keynes anthem when they win...... And the way we get BBC-TV is directly through the cable...without any streaming whatsoever. (and for your information the BBC is already in Europe.....even when it is in the UK only)

They are Austrian owned, hence the Austrian national anthem; Milton Keynes hasn't been internationally recognized as an independent nation so playing of their anthem and that's taking into account whether it's even been composed or not, is immaterial.

I know that BBC broadcasts can be picked up in France, Belgium and Holland, so if they can reach Hungary then they could very well have heard the commentary.

[JamesH]

Originally Posted by bjohnsonsmith

Milton Keynes hasn't been internationally recognized as an independent nation

Although you should be forced to have a passport to go there. Is that a mouse I hear roaring?

[Splatz the Cow]

Comment on the post race interview:

What the hell was Webber looking at his arms on the chair for?

Looking left, right, right, left - is one arm longer than the other?

Or

This chair would look good in my flat, wonder what padding its got? Foam? Hand stuffed? Nah, wouldn't be hand stuffed, everything's machine-made now.. must be foam. Must see if the boys can fit it in the back of the truck... Wait what's Seb saying 'bout me?

[fourWheelDrift]

Originally Posted by JamesH

Although you should be forced to have a passport to go there. Is that a mouse I hear roaring?

You must be as old as me! of course there should also be a Pimlico reference.

[henk4]

Originally Posted by bjohnsonsmith

I know that BBC broadcasts can be picked up in France, Belgium and Holland, so if they can reach Hungary then they could very well have heard the commentary.

you clearly live on an island

[Schumiforeverever]

Originally Posted by djb

boy just rewatched the Schummy-Barr incident. You know, to move someone over to the wall like that, with basically interlocked wheels only up until the pitwall ended allowing Barr to move more to the right, for me is a pretty good indication of the real character of a driver.
This was not a regular "pinching off" type situation in an more open corner where one driver is determined not to let the other one through, even if it means contact. The combo of contact, interlocked wheels and the wall all combined together to be a serious serious shunt---we all know that who saw it.

so for me, this really does show up a ruthlessness, but moreso , the lack of judgement that before he showed in less life threatening situations (Adelaide, Jerez, numerous start line choppings) but in this case something that could have been pretty darn ugly.

he's a smart guy, he knew what he was doing.

You said it so well,"he knew what he was doing"

In the past those kind of moves were pretty awesome, made by great drivers!
Senna did the same with Prost in Portugal.

[fourWheelDrift]

Originally Posted by Schumiforeverever

You said it so well,"he knew what he was doing"

In the past those kind of moves were pretty awesome, made by great drivers!
Senna did the same with Prost in Portugal.

Without wishing to reopen a subject that has already been done to death I have scarcely missed a televised F1 race in over 30 years (shows age) and never, ever have I seen anything as deliberately dangerous as the move in question. Even the infamous high speed take out of Prost by Senna in Japan didn't come close in terms of the likely consequences of the accident that we so nearly saw in Hungary.

[Schumiforeverever]

Originally Posted by fourWheelDrift

Without wishing to reopen a subject that has already been done to death I have scarcely missed a televised F1 race in over 30 years (shows age) and never, ever have I seen anything as deliberately dangerous as the move in question. Even the infamous high speed take out of Prost by Senna in Japan didn't come close in terms of the likely consequences of the accident that we so nearly saw in Hungary.

Exaggeratted!!!

I gave the portuguese grand prix as an example not the japanese.

Barrichello tried to overtake in the wrong place that's it.

[fourWheelDrift]

Originally Posted by Schumiforeverever

I gave the portuguese grand prix as an example not the japanese.
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And I made a slightly different point by citing a different example, I think that's allowed. I am sure our opinions will not converge on this so feel free to have the last word as I'm not going to waste my time debating this with someone who, while entitled to their opinion, is also so obviously biased.

[Bononi]

Originally Posted by Schumiforeverever

You said it so well,"he knew what he was doing"

In the past those kind of moves were pretty awesome, made by great drivers!
Senna did the same with Prost in Portugal.

Uuuuhhhhnnnn..... Yeah, Senna did and he was wrong, it doesn't make it right because he was a great driver... pretty much the contrary.



Following your logic every girl should be like Britney Spears or Lindsay Lohan, just because they are er... "great".

[Bononi]

Originally Posted by Schumiforeverever

Exaggeratted!!!

I gave the portuguese grand prix as an example not the japanese.

Barrichello tried to overtake in the wrong place that's it.

I think you're OTT with your "exaggeratted"...

Barrichello tried to overtake in the wrong place... man, you have to re-make the whole history in the 25 years of the Hungarian Grand Prix to make such a statement !!! Amazing.

[Fox89]

Barrichello tried to overtake in the wrong place that's it.

Exactly my thoughts. Barrichello was stupid to try and overtake there. And by 'there' I mean 'in a gap next to Michael Schumacher'. Because of course Schumacher was going to try and ram him into the wall. He won 7 WDC with that kind of tactic, why should he stop now?

Had Michael just picked a line and stuck to it, and Rubens had gone for the gap anyway, both of them would have been hailed for brilliant driving and bravery. But he didn't, he pushed Rubens towards a concrete wall at 180mph just because he is stubborn and petulant.

Before that move I was actually wishing Schumacher well this season. I had got over my bitterness that I have held since Adelaide '94 and wished him well as he seemed like a laid back and decent guy. Then he goes and does this and reminds everyone why, despite winning the same number of titles as Senna and Prost combined, most people hold the latter in higher regard than him.