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Old 25 Feb 2004, 05:54 (Ref:884860)   #326
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Just in case : there was a shakedown on the Bugatti last week-end... pics are by Claude Foubert, on the Maison Blanche site...

Notice that the vertical windplates have dispeared on the LMP Lister, and that the engine power is now increased to 600 hp.

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Old 25 Feb 2004, 08:37 (Ref:884931)   #327
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That's still one very strange looking front end on that Lister LMP......
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Old 25 Feb 2004, 09:02 (Ref:884950)   #328
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Notice the air box around the restrictors. I'm not sure it's only for an aerodynamic purpose. In my opinion, if the air is compressed in this box at high speed, the maximum air flux increases through the restrictors.
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Old 25 Feb 2004, 15:41 (Ref:885266)   #329
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Could be PascaLM. I've always wondered though if the driver's helmet disturbs the air flow in this area making it more difficult to route air into the airbox. I must admit though, having an airbox like the Lister is sporting is much more attractive than say how the Dome's air intake is.
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Old 26 Feb 2004, 06:52 (Ref:885858)   #330
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I must admit though, having an airbox like the Lister is sporting is much more attractive than say how the Dome's air intake is.
Agree ! I thought that I was alone with this opinion !

The small air intakes we see on some Judd powered cars are not as "sportscars type" as the great ones we have now on the Lister... the small ones are more "F3" badged...

I still appreciate the Judd, though, don't take me wrong on this !

With a different approach : I prefered the roof top air intakes on the 1999' Toyotas and the 2001/2002' specs Bentleys, than those ugly rear side air intakes we had last year on the Bentleys... (as always, it's an IMHO !)

We may have to do some aesthetical sacrifices for efficiency...

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We may have to do some aesthetical sacrifices for efficiency...

Agreed again!

Like the Audi R8, you mean.......


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I must admit though, having an airbox like the Lister is sporting is much more attractive than say how the Dome's air intake is.
You cannot be serious !!! That new airbox on the Lister really does look like an afterthought ..... Its a "V" completely shapeless , and its also silver !!!
It was much nicer before I reckon .....
With respect to the various "F3" intakes as seen in various configurations , it think its very interesting to see how differant teams arrange thier respective intakes .

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Old 26 Feb 2004, 11:23 (Ref:886115)   #333
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Old 26 Feb 2004, 12:48 (Ref:886214)   #334
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Agreed again!

Like the Audi R8, you mean.......

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With respect to the various "F3" intakes as seen in various configurations , it think its very interesting to see how differant teams arrange thier respective intakes .
You certainly have a point here Badger ! Did I forget my usual "IMHO" ? Huh............ no ! It's there allright !

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Old 26 Feb 2004, 13:41 (Ref:886270)   #335
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To jhansen:

Air disturbance from a helmet into an airbox is a MAJOR concern....I know that from my friends who run in the IRL.....a lot of aero study and design has been invested in helmets in recent years for two reasons (in this order)

1. To reduce buffeting of a driver's head and at the same time, creating an aerodynamic air flow around the driver's head in realation to the airflow around the bodywork in general and specidfically, with the rear cowling....this is one reason why you see IRL and Champ Car drivers wearing helmets that are actually flat on the back, with wing-like shapes on the top and sides near the back of the helmet to direct air over and around the helmet without flowing behind it....and

2. That shape, as it relates to a driver's height in the cockpit, also takes into account how that airflow off the helmet can facilitate directing that air into the airbox without creating a block or turbulence....

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This is very true. There are people who actually make rude comments about my beloved Spyker, if you can believe that, and say that it is not a beautiful example of a racing machine!
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Old 26 Feb 2004, 18:24 (Ref:886528)   #337
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I have just picked this up from DSC - DAMS are going to run 2 Care Racing Ferrari 550's.
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Old 27 Feb 2004, 06:16 (Ref:886996)   #339
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Just to know :
- there's no Viper expected at LM this year, isn't it ?
- how many Saleens could we expect ? Konrad, Graham Nash, ACEMCO : did they confirmed something ?
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I reckon you will see 3 possibly 4 Saleen's ..... 1 for RML , 1 for GNM and hopefully 2 for Konrad . I heard someplace that Acemco are not planning on an entry ..... shame !!!
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Hi all,

I'm a newbie here and was wondering if there was a website that gave information about the Le Mans entry list guestimates so far?

+300 posts is quite a lot to get through!

Is there also one for Sebring 12hrs and other series (FIA GT, etc)?

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Welcome stoney. Haven't done any checking myself yet (although I'll have a list up in the not too distant future).
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Rob Jones' list is a good place to start - I know he's usually pretty up to date. (He's knows I'll be paying his list some close attention soon..... )

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Welcome Stoney !

David Lengangneux, as a french journalist, is usualy well informed too. He's an entry list for LM here.

Notice that he doesn't take risks, focusing on almost garanteed entries only. The field will be much wider, and possible entries/rumous are on Rob' site.
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Rob Jones' list is a good place to start - I know he's usually pretty up to date. (He's knows I'll be paying his list some close attention soon..... )

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And I now have a list too.....

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Old 27 Feb 2004, 16:15 (Ref:887457)   #347
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I was reading the article about Dams and Care Racing teaming up for Le Mans. The article said that Dams would run the race team and testing duties and the tech support would come from Care Racing/Prodrive. What is the link between Care Racing and Prodrive? Can someone possibly explain this for me?
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Apart from the fact that Care ran Luc Alphand's Ferrari last year, I'm not sure.....
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This is very true. There are people who actually make rude comments about my beloved Spyker, if you can believe that, and say that it is not a beautiful example of a racing machine!
I just received this from Spyker:

"At the upcoming 74th Geneva International Motor Show Spyker will have an important announcement to make. Our press conference will be on March 2nd...."

What can this be? :confused:
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I just received this from Spyker:

"At the upcoming 74th Geneva International Motor Show Spyker will have an important announcement to make. Our press conference will be on March 2nd...."

What can this be? :confused:
Will they lauch another new model?
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