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Old 3 Aug 2020, 20:09 (Ref:3992775)   #1
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Brands Hatch Rd4/5/6

Back at a track again. No crowds again. Spectacular racing again.

Saturday
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09.00 – 09.20 Qualifying F4 British Championship
09.30 – 10.10 Free Practice Kwik Fit British Touring Car Championship
10.30 – 10.45 Qualifying Michelin Ginetta Junior Championship
10.55 – 11.25 Qualifying Porsche Carrera Cup Great Britain
11.35 – 11.55 Qualifying Millers Oils Ginetta GT4 SuperCup Championship
12.05 – 12.45 Free Practice Kwik Fit British Touring Car Championship
13.05 – 13.35 Qualifying Dunlop Mini Challenges supported by Mini Spares
13.35 – 14.15 Lunch Break
14.15 Race F4 British Championship 20 mins
14.50 Race Michelin Ginetta Junior Championship 8
15.20 – 15.50 Qualifying Kwik Fit British Touring Car Championship
16.00 Race Millers Oils Ginetta GT4 SuperCup Championship 10
16.30 Race Dunlop Mini Challenges supported by Mini Spares 20 mins
17.05 Race F4 British Championship 20 mins
17.40 Race Michelin Ginetta Junior Championship 10

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10.00 Dunlop Mini Challenges supported by Mini Spares 20 mins
10.35 BTCC Pit Lane Opens
10.50 Kwik Fit British Touring Car Championship 15
11.30 Porsche Carrera Cup Great Britain 17
12.10 Millers Oils Ginetta GT4 SuperCup Championship 14
12.45 – 13.15 Lunch Break
13.15 BTCC Pit Lane Opens
13.30 Kwik Fit British Touring Car Championship 15
14.10 Michelin Ginetta Junior Championship 10
14.45 F4 British Championship 20 mins
15.20 Dunlop Mini Challenges supported by Mini Spares 20 mins
15.55 Porsche Carrera Cup Great Britain 17
16.35 Millers Oils Ginetta GT4 SuperCup Championship 14
17.15 BTCC Pit Lane Opens
17.30 Kwik Fit British Touring Car Championship 15
These timetables remain subject to change.
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Ash Sutton will walk as champinship leader after this
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Old 3 Aug 2020, 21:24 (Ref:3992782)   #3
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Ash Sutton will walk as champinship leader after this
You were saying the same about the BMWs last season after Donington, but the championship went right down to the wire.....
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You were saying the same about the BMWs last season after Donington, but the championship went right down to the wire.....
if you remember BMW were pegged back by TOCA and script dictated that Turks be spun in all 3 last events
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Old 4 Aug 2020, 06:18 (Ref:3992811)   #5
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if you remember BMW were pegged back by TOCA and script dictated that Turks be spun in all 3 last events
Yes - BMW had adjustments as a result of normal TOCA process. The same will happen again if any one car/driver becomes too dominant.

For now, why not just enjoy the racing and Sutton's talent on show?
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Old 4 Aug 2020, 06:35 (Ref:3992817)   #6
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Yes - BMW had adjustments as a result of normal TOCA process. The same will happen again if any one car/driver becomes too dominant.

For now, why not just enjoy the racing and Sutton's talent on show?
I thought all rwd cars recieved the same adjustments for the 2and half of last season.
I am intrigued to know what are the elements of the scooby chassis that they have managed to engineer into the Infiniti.
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Old 4 Aug 2020, 05:06 (Ref:3992810)   #7
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Ash Sutton will walk as champinship leader after this
Why, has he had enough? Budget run out? What have you heard? Will he compete in something else instead? Surely this should have been posted in the rumours thread.
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Old 4 Aug 2020, 06:32 (Ref:3992815)   #8
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Ash Sutton will walk as champinship leader after this
Here's why I feel making such bold decisions against such little evidence is a futile game. Only a matter of weeks ago, you were saying:

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too bad Sutton is in the Infinity, imagine him in that WSR Beamer, it would also answer if he is better than Turks or not
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having said that let's see how will he [Sutton] pass other cars now that his super tight cornering advanatge is gone
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Old 3 Aug 2020, 20:28 (Ref:3992777)   #9
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Don't think so. Brands GP has never been a RWD track has it? I would put my money on Cammish and Cook for this week
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Old 3 Aug 2020, 20:37 (Ref:3992778)   #10
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No, Brands GP has never really favoured the RWD cars. Not to say they won’t be competitive, just no big advantage from them
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I wonder if Andrew Jordan will knock off some cobwebs and enter his Miglia? That race should be the highlight of the supports. They've got 56 entered! Presumably they aren't all on track together?
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They've got 56 entered! Presumably they aren't all on track together?
Potentially, yes. One can start 46 saloons on the GP circuit, all of whom - obviously - need to practice. However, in practice, the maximum number of permitted cars increases by 20% in order to allow reserves the chance to qualify. As such, all entered cars could be on track during qualifying.
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Here's hoping Jake has a fit and healthy engine. The lad and the FK2 have always looked good at Brands.

Cookie I can see running well, ditto the Dynamics duo.

I reckon the BMWs will be solid rather than spectacular. And I can see Ash Sutton pushing too hard as I don't think the car and track will be as well suited as Donny - but what do I know?
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Here's hoping Jake has a fit and healthy engine. The lad and the FK2 have always looked good at Brands.

Cookie I can see running well, ditto the Dynamics duo.

I reckon the BMWs will be solid rather than spectacular. And I can see Ash Sutton pushing too hard as I don't think the car and track will be as well suited as Donny - but what do I know?
Ash hinted recently that he is going to be 'robust' in his approach this season. He recognised that it might not endear him to the rest of the grid, but he will be adopting a glory or bust approach. I think we saw traces of that last weekend, and there will be more to come.
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Ash hinted recently that he is going to be 'robust' in his approach this season. He recognised that it might not endear him to the rest of the grid, but he will be adopting a glory or bust approach. I think we saw traces of that last weekend, and there will be more to come.
I've always thought of him as robust and elbows out.
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Yes, me too, but he generally (in my opinion) seems to keep just the right side of the line of what is acceptable.
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I've always thought of him as robust and elbows out.
He admitted that - and said he would be even more so this season.

An interesting tactic given the amount of drivers who have commented that they need to preserve their machinery with the condensed season.

Or is it just mind games to make other drivers wary of him when they see him in their mirrors.
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LOL, you've yet to encounter him on iRacing then!
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Ash hinted recently that he is going to be 'robust' in his approach this season. He recognised that it might not endear him to the rest of the grid, but he will be adopting a glory or bust approach. I think we saw traces of that last weekend, and there will be more to come.
The car certainly appeared to be on the ragged edge, rather than just outright quick. I wonder how many of the others were going for what they could comfortably achieve and have a car for this weekend. Sutton was fortunate that his race 1 spin didn't result in more damage for himself and or others as they were fairly tightly packed at that point.
Other drivers may also choose to be more robust at certain points throughout the rest of the season.
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The car certainly appeared to be on the ragged edge, rather than just outright quick. I wonder how many of the others were going for what they could comfortably achieve and have a car for this weekend. Sutton was fortunate that his race 1 spin didn't result in more damage for himself and or others as they were fairly tightly packed at that point.
Other drivers may also choose to be more robust at certain points throughout the rest of the season.
Ragged edge or set up to move around?
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Ragged edge or set up to move around?
Set up to have characteristics as close as possible to a title-winning RWD from 2017....
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Sutton did seem to be pushing almost unnecessarily hard at times - it seems similar to Plato's old style of always push to the maximum, even if it means crashing going for 1st instead of settling for 2nd. It makes for exciting racing for sure, but I wonder how many times he'll come a cropper before having a re-think? Although aggression and risk-taking is a big part of what makes the BTCC so great to watch, the fact is that consistency, prudence and caution is usually the more successful strategy.


I suspect there's also an element of him wanting to silence people who said it was just the Subaru that made him so fast.
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Here's hoping Jake has a fit and healthy engine. The lad and the FK2 have always looked good at Brands.

Cookie I can see running well, ditto the Dynamics duo.

I reckon the BMWs will be solid rather than spectacular. And I can see Ash Sutton pushing too hard as I don't think the car and track will be as well suited as Donny - but what do I know?
Cook will be carrying ballast though. Chilton should be faster.
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Sutton and Turkington are great examples of totally different approaches. Ash is always giving 110% even if he is comfortably in the top 3 that could earn him good points but he'll always give everything to try and grab the win - even if it means crashing out.
Colin is more cautious, when he's second he'll try to catch the first but not at all costs and when he sees the chances are not great he settles for big points day.
I like Sutton's style, he's exciting to watch but I hope if he's got real chances for the title, he'll be thinking of banking points too.
Brands could be a test for Infiniti. I hope it's not another inconsistent car just like Subaru that needs 150% approach to do reasonable results.
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