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Old 20 Aug 2002, 13:15 (Ref:362027)   #1
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F1 "Silly Season."

Speculation/Rumors/Innuendo! These things make "bench-racing" an enjoyable pastime. However, all good things must come to an end! My question is this: When do you all think that we will have a good grip on the driver/team lineups for 2003?

Looking forward to your input and an end to Silly Season so we can begin discussing the wisdom of the signings/firings!
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Old 20 Aug 2002, 13:58 (Ref:362061)   #2
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this the upteenth time we would be discussing the silly season..
ferrari/williams/macs situation doesnt change.
jaguar - alonso & webber
jordan - fisichella & irvine
totyota - frentzen & sato
bar - button & panis
sauber - heidfeld & [we will see]
minardi - davidson & yoong
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Old 20 Aug 2002, 14:02 (Ref:362068)   #3
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this the upteenth time we would be discussing the silly season..
ferrari/williams/macs situation doesnt change.
jaguar - alonso & webber
Your have a job Alonso's going to Renault
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Old 20 Aug 2002, 14:04 (Ref:362070)   #4
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freud has a lot of promise if they can keep it on the circuit!
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yeah sorry about that , i just forgot Renault. here's teh revised list, mate. thanks!

jaguar - webber & [we will see]
renault - alonso & trulli
jordan - fisichella & irvine
totyota - frentzen & sato
bar - button & panis
sauber - heidfeld & [we will see]
minardi - davidson & yoong
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Old 20 Aug 2002, 14:06 (Ref:362071)   #5
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Freud - yes I realize this has been discussed a bazillion times, I apologize if I was not clear enough! My question is related to when we would have a firm idea: announcements made, glowing press releases etc. I am not real familiar with the contractual periods used so I am wondering when everything will be firmed up for '03.
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Old 20 Aug 2002, 14:07 (Ref:362072)   #6
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freud: from your list i can see you are enjoying silly season, and no, this is not about my mother
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Old 20 Aug 2002, 14:19 (Ref:362077)   #7
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am i?, really

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Old 20 Aug 2002, 16:18 (Ref:362159)   #8
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steve nielsen should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
Ferrari - M.Schumacher -R.Barichello
Williams- R.Schumacher -J.Montoya
Mclaren- D. Coulthard -K.Raikkonen
Sauber- N.Heidfeld -J.Verstappen
Jordan- G.Fisichella -E.Irvine
Jaguar- P.De la Rosa -M.Webber
Toyota- M.Salo -T.Takagi
BAR- J.Villeneuve -J.Button
Renault- J.Trulli -F.Alonso
Minardi- A.Davidson -T. Enge
Arrows(?)-E.Bernoldi -S.Bourdais
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Old 20 Aug 2002, 16:28 (Ref:362168)   #9
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Ferrari: M. Schumacher - Rubens Barrichello
McLaren: D. Coulthard - K. Raikkonen
Williams: R. Schumacher - J.P. Montoya
Renault: F. Alonso - J. Trulli
Toyota: M. Salo - C. da Matta
Jordan: G. Fisichella - T. Sato (or Eddie Irvine, when Ford wants it to happen)
Minardi: J. Wilson - A. Davidson (or Bryan Herta)
Jaguar: P. Delarosa - M. Webber
Sauber: N. Heidfeld - F. Massa (or H.H. Frentzen when Peter Sauber isn't coming to his senses in time)
BAR: J. Villeneuve - J. Button

I don't think Arrows will compete in 2003. For the time being its far too early to predict in which form a new team will take its place.

Interesting to see that there still are people who list a second rate driver, who couldnt manage to score more than 20 points in 8 seasons, more often than not saw a contract not extended (and the only time it happened, he was released from that contract), and up till now hasn't drove a single mile in a racingcar of any sort from oktober 2001 on. Quite annoying actually.

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Old 20 Aug 2002, 17:00 (Ref:362189)   #10
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Hmm, let's see, with numbers as they are in the championship...

Ferrari: 1. M. Schumacher, 2. Barrichello
Williams: 3. R. Schumacher, 4. Montoya
McLaren: 5. Coulthard, 6. Raikkonen
Renault: 7. Trulli, 8. Alonso
Sauber: 9. Heidfeld, 10. Massa (I think, but Heinz maybe?)
Jordan: 11. Fisichella, 12. Sato (or Irvine, or Heinz)
BAR: 14. Villeneuve, 15. Button (don't see JV back to CART)
Jaguar: 16. De la Rosa, 17. Webber (PDLR seemed confirmed, but who knows?)
Minardi: 18. Herta?, 19. (as always, who knows)
Toyota: 20. Salo, 21. da Matta (or HHF, or Irvine, or McNish even)

Arrows? Phoenix anyone?
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Old 20 Aug 2002, 23:27 (Ref:362564)   #11
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mac should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridmac should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridmac should be qualifying in the top 3 on the grid
I would not be surprised if Webber goes somewhere other than Jaguar. Just remember who told you first.
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Old 21 Aug 2002, 08:46 (Ref:362722)   #12
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minardi - davidson & yoong
Um. Yoong?!?!

I don't think so...
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Old 21 Aug 2002, 09:12 (Ref:362736)   #13
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Kex should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
Sauber - Heidfeld & Frentzen
Jordan - Fisichella & Sato
Jaguar - De La Rosa & Webber
Toyota - Salo & McNish
BAR - Villeneuve & Button
Minardi - Yoong & a new guy
Arrows - Bernoldi & a new guy
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Old 21 Aug 2002, 09:22 (Ref:362741)   #14
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This from friend of Dancing Machine

Ferrari : SchM and Rubens
Williams: Ralf and JPM )JPM not 100% confirmed)
Mclaren : Kimi and DC
Renault : Trulli and Alonso
Jordan : Fisi and HHF
Sauber: Heidfeld and Webber
BAR: Villeneuve and Bunsen
Jaguar: HHF and Webber
Arrows: Bernoldi and Webber
Toyota: Salo and HHF
Minardi: Webber and Herta

It is my understanding that these teams' drivers positions are final and contracts have already been signed for all teams.

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Old 21 Aug 2002, 09:24 (Ref:362742)   #15
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Re: This from friend of Dancing Machine

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Sauber: Heidfeld and Webber

Jaguar: HHF and Webber
Arrows: Bernoldi and Webber
Minardi: Webber and Herta

Didn't know that Webber had so many brothers VB, but what ones Mark gonna drive for?
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Old 21 Aug 2002, 09:30 (Ref:362747)   #16
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Old 21 Aug 2002, 09:57 (Ref:362767)   #17
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My limited understanding:

Ferrari - Same
McLaren - Same
Williams - Same
Renault - Trulli/Alonso
Jordan - Fisichella/Sato
BAR - JV/Button
Sauber - Heidfeld/? (Most likely Massa, very impressive in Hungary)
Jaguar - Webber/PDLR
Arrows (or whatever they are called) - Bernoldi/?
Minardi - ?/?
Toyota - Salo/da Matta
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Old 22 Aug 2002, 07:02 (Ref:363438)   #18
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My surmise:
F/Mc/Wil: same
Renault: Trulli, Alonso
Jordan: Fisichella, Sato/Irvine
BAR: Panis, Button
Sauber: Heidfeld, McNish/Verstappen
Jaguar: PDL Rosa, Webber
Toyota: Salo, HHF/Da Matta
Minadi: Davidson, Russian kid
Arrows: Massa, Bernodi
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