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Old 6 Jul 2005, 02:33 (Ref:1348402)   #1
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Dalziel has a ride in Champ Car

AR1 is reporting that Ryan Dalziel will be racing for Dale Coyne Racing this weekend.

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Old 6 Jul 2005, 02:53 (Ref:1348407)   #2
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Wow I'm quiet surprised. Is Tarso or Richardo going to be sitting out? Perhaps Coyne can't find anyone who has enough money to do the rest of the season, but they can find a bunch of people who have enough money to do one race?
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Old 6 Jul 2005, 03:34 (Ref:1348420)   #3
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It's Toronto, for crying-out-loud!
Next up? Edmonton!

OWRS should have made sure that Valiante had (at least) the next two rides.
Let Dalziel replace him (if needed) anytime thereafter.

What if PT bolts to NASCAR? Given that situation, this would be ChampCar's last-ditch effort to solidify their current Canadian fanbase.

Certainly not a knock on Dalziel, but the timing just isn't right. I know I mentioned that in another thread just as Marques was being announced. And Snrub mentioned elsewhere that "Ranger-Mania" hasn't swept over this country yet.

If the "OW" in "OWRS" stood for "macdaddy", then you'd better believe that there would be a Canadian in that seat come Friday morning.
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Old 6 Jul 2005, 05:47 (Ref:1348484)   #4
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Tarso said his Cleveland drive was a one-off, so I'd assume it's in that car.
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Old 6 Jul 2005, 11:02 (Ref:1348660)   #5
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Both Valiente and Dalziel have been waiting ages for a decent drive in ChampCars, and while I'm pleased that a fellow Brit is on the grid, I agree that Valiente should have been guaranteed the Canadian races, with OWRS footing the bill if neccessary. The onyld efence would be if Ryan is signed for the whole seaosn and has the appropriate funding in place, but event hen it's a ptiy for Valiente's many fans.
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Old 6 Jul 2005, 11:50 (Ref:1348690)   #6
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...team owner Dale Coyne stated only that he’s "looking forward to running Ryan in Toronto and seeing what develops from there."
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Old 6 Jul 2005, 15:21 (Ref:1348850)   #7
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While I agree with everything Macdaddy said, if Champcar is subsidizing DCR in some way why not put a driver in the car that is already on the payroll. We'll probably never konw for sure, but that's what I think. I just wish that Dale Coyne had a guy in that AMR car consistantly and give the team a chance to gel with one driver.
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Old 6 Jul 2005, 20:06 (Ref:1349032)   #8
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From an interview with Ryan by Autosport:

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Q. You've signed for just one race this weekend at Toronto. Any chance it could be more?

RD: "I'm in for the rest of the season provided I don't mess anything up. It's not about money. It's a funded drive thanks to American Medical Response so I'm not bringing any to the team. There aren't many non-funded drives around at the moment so it is good to be able to be one of the few drivers on the grid able to say that.

"I might know after this weekend, but we'll have to see."
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Old 6 Jul 2005, 20:29 (Ref:1349055)   #9
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I get the impression that Valiante could've said the same thing. The only sponsor on those sidepods were AMR. And he didn't mess anything up.

(That is assuming that AMR are a paying-sponsor in the first place)

Dalziel's already being groomed to take over for Vasser next year, so why not give somebody else a shot?
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Old 6 Jul 2005, 20:53 (Ref:1349084)   #10
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I am happy for Ryan but I am very disappointed for Michael Valiante. I am also disappointed (but not surprised) that the powers that be did not see the publicity that could have been gained by putting MV in the car for the Canadian races.

Did they expect Jensen to do that? While there seems to be good local interest adding another Canadian would have been a good plan for now and for the future.

What did MV do or not do in Portland to not get another chance.
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Old 6 Jul 2005, 21:11 (Ref:1349104)   #11
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I think OWRS is only worried about keeping one driver from each country look at what happened to the Mexican drivers, we all know Mario is only around because they knew that with no Mexicans the races in Mexico would be kind of hopeless.
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There is a strategy here somewhere...if we could only figure it out! The Amigos put a Brit in a car for the Canadian races, leaving a deserving Canadian out in the cold (no pun intended). Perhaps I need a few drinks to loosen up the few remaining brain cells that I have and then everything will make sense!

Maybe they will put a Canadian in the car for the remaining American races...A Korean for next year's Mexican race, a Mexican for the Korean race...

Further, I thought AMR's relationship to DCR was not one that generated cash - can someone clarify that?

I think I am going to go have a lie-down now.
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Old 7 Jul 2005, 04:51 (Ref:1349265)   #13
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Muzza suggested that AMR wasn't giving DCR any money and I thought he made a good arguement.

I would suggest that Dalziel's sponsor isn't AMR, but uncle Kevin. Recall that PKV is keeping Dalziel on as a technical resources or some wierd title because they're looking to bring him on for next year. If KK is looking for value for his money he probably wants Dalziel to get some experience. If they were smart they'd be looking at subsidizing drivers who will improve the lot of the series. Frankly I think developing Mexican and US talent should be the #1 priority. Canadians would show up even without a Canadian in the field, but I don't know that 330k Mexicans will show up at their two races (or if you want to use the weekend figures >700k) without someone to cheer for.
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Dalziel said today in Autosport that no money is being brought to Coyne and he won the drive on merit. I've heard the dollar figure on AMR's sponsorship and if true it's enough to run the car.
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Old 7 Jul 2005, 10:23 (Ref:1349429)   #15
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Perhaps Muzza can clarify then as he seems to have good information on these things. He seemed certain at the time he posted that AMR was not offering $$ but perhaps that has changed.
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well no matter what our views on who should or shouldnt be in the car I certainly wish Ryan well and am happy to see another new face come to the sport and certainly one that seems to be deserving of the seat.

a shame for valiante but good news for Ryan.
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Old 7 Jul 2005, 16:44 (Ref:1349735)   #18
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I've heard from more than one reliable source that Valiente acts very much like a "prima donna" and has offended many influential people that could have helped his carreer...hence, no ride.
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Old 7 Jul 2005, 19:22 (Ref:1349840)   #19
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Interesting there Gordie, a shame if he is. If they really do have full funding available for the drive, t's time DCR signed a driver who can do the whole season for them/
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Boots, that's why none of this makes sense.

I get the impression that OWRS / CCWS / KK have everything to do with it.

I fully realize that it's important to the series to get more American drivers. But, as I've said, the Toronto-Edmonton part of the schedule is the absolute worst time to try it.
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But Dalziel is Scottish!
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Old 9 Jul 2005, 10:44 (Ref:1351004)   #23
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Ryan is certainly there on merit, he's been an Atlantics front-runner for the past 2 years, and I don't think he has that much personal sponsorship. Chances are that KK has paid for these drives so as to ensure that his man is race-ready next year. The whole thing seems to be of questoinable priority though - ultimately KK has put his team's needs above the needs of the series as a whole, and that's what he's always promised he would never do. It's such a shame that Michael won't be in action this weekend.
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Old 9 Jul 2005, 16:20 (Ref:1351204)   #24
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Ryan is indeed Scottish - Dalziel (pronounced D-L) is a classic Celtic name. Despite his strong Atlantics pedigree, I'm sure he's only there because KK has him under contract, and this surely represents an abuse of power.
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ok so this raises the next question.

if Ryan is heading to PKV next year what is happening with that team ?

with DaMatta proving he is still very quick in this series and jimmy being a part owner in the team will Jimmy take an early retirement and give Ryan the drive or are they planning a 3 car team for 06 ?
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